I found a "jsmin" package on PyPI with the same code. (Actually more
efficient code, it says, but it's derived from yours and has the same
license.)  I changed the helper to use the "jsmin" package if
installed, otherwise to pass Javascript through unchanged and issue a
warning. The CSS minification is unaffected. The "_jsmin" module now
raises ImportError and has an explanation in comments.

I released WebHelpers 1.1 with these changes because Fedora's alpha
freeze was a few days ago, and they said the change was small enough
it might make it past the freeze. (It doesn't have the other pending
patch for cascading, because that would be an API change.)

--Mike

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Domen Kožar <do...@dev.si> wrote:
> We can make it as optional dependency and provide something else as
> default minimizer.
>
> I guess jokes make the world spin, literally.
>
> Domen
>
> On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 15:25 -0700, Mike Orr wrote:
>> Crockford has spoken, so _jsmin.py will have to go. The Fedora people
>> also contacted him earlier and got a similar response. I don't know
>> why he's so obstinate: is a joke in a license really more important
>> than giving the code to everybody who might benefit from it (which
>> would seem to be the purpose of an MIT-style license).
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Douglas Crockford <doug...@crockford.com>
>> Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: _jsmin.py license
>> To: Mike Orr <sluggos...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>  I don't care what you do so long as you respect my license.
>>
>> On 8/9/2010 2:39 PM, Mike Orr wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Douglas Crawford (and Domen Kozar and Pedro Algarvio)--
>> >
>> > I am the maintainer of WebHelpers (webhelpers.groovie.org), a Python
>> > library that has included _jsmin.py for several years. Recently, a
>> > Fedora Linux maintainer informed me that the license is not OSS
>> > compatible per their definition, and so they'd have to remove the
>> > module from their distribution.
>> >
>> > http://bitbucket.org/bbangert/webhelpers/issue/39/non-free-license-of-_jsminpy-taints
>> >
>> > Complaint: "The license in _jsmin.py is not a recognized
>> > OSS-compatible license and has the problematically non-libre "Good,
>> > not Evil" clause."
>> >
>> > License clause: "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil."
>> >
>> > I'm writing to ask permission to drop this clause from the license. Or
>> > even better for our users, to put the module under the WebHelpers
>> > license which is a similar MIT-style license:
>> >
>> > ===
>> > All rights reserved.
>> >
>> > Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
>> > modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
>> > are met:
>> > 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
>> >    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
>> > 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
>> >    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
>> >    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
>> > 3. The name of the author or contributors may not be used to endorse or
>> >    promote products derived from this software without specific prior
>> >    written permission.
>> >
>> > THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND
>> > ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
>> > IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
>> > ARE DISCLAIMED.  IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE
>> > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL
>> > DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS
>> > OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION)
>> > HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT
>> > LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY
>> > OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF
>> > SUCH DAMAGE.
>> > ===
>> >
>> > If not, I'll have to remove _jsmin.py from WebHelpers, because we want
>> > it and Pylons in all Linux distributions.
>> >
>> >
>> > Domen and Pedro--
>> >
>> > If _jsmin.py goes, minify.py might have to go too. It has no fallback
>> > implementation for Javascript compression, and the remaining CSS
>> > compression functionality might look funny all alone. As in, it would
>> > raise user questions like, Why can I compress this but not that?" On
>> > another note, a user has submitted a patch to minify application code
>> > and external Javascript libraries (e.g., jQuery) together.  Do you
>> > think this patch looks like a good idea, and would you like to
>> > incorporate it upstream?
>> >
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-devel/browse_thread/thread/b08e97c6cb709e04
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



-- 
Mike Orr <sluggos...@gmail.com>

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