On 23.10.2012 12:07, Michael Foord wrote:
> A suggestion on managing the feed of news items that appears on the front 
> page of python.org.

The current system for posting news entries on python.org uses the newsindex.yml
file which basically lists calendar entries in ReST format. I suppose
we could simply add a flag to those entries to disable their display on the
frontpage and only have the items listed in the RSS feed (that's how we
do this at eGenix).

> All the best,
> 
> Michael Foord
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Justin Blank <justin.bl...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Python.org front page news features (near-)duplicates
>> Date: 23 October 2012 01:17:35 BST
>> To: Michael Foord <mich...@python.org>
>>
>> As I said, the point is that updates displayed on a webpage should be
>> decoupled from the RSS feed. RSS is plumbing.
>>
>> Here is one idea: a widget displays the n-most recent items in the RSS
>> feed by default (or it could be all entries more recent than a certain
>> date). However, a human can override that default, and either a) keep
>> certain items displaying for longer, or b) hide entries (like release
>> candidates) that have been superceded by more recent developments. .
>>
>> Release candidates are important news when they happen. They cease
>> being news once the actual software is released. At that point, they
>> are history, and are of interest to a limited set of people.
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Michael Foord <mich...@python.org> wrote:
>>> Hello Justin,
>>>
>>> The main use case for the RSS feed is to be consumed via feed readers, so 
>>> most people will see items as they are posted rather than all at the same 
>>> time. I don't see how else we could generate a useful feed of news items 
>>> other than as they are posted though. Betas and release candidates of new 
>>> versions of Python is important news after all.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Michael Foord
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 Oct 2012, at 20:10, Justin Blank <justin.bl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the python.org front page, there is an RSS feed of news. At
>>>> present, this displays the fact that Python 3.3 was released (good),
>>>> but it also dispays three additional 3.3 release candidates. Since
>>>> seven news items are displayed in my browser, that means almost half
>>>> of them are wasted. I am personally insane enough to be curious what
>>>> the schedule of release candidates was for already released software
>>>> (indeed, I have checked that information for several operating systems
>>>> and other pieces of software recently), but it's not what I expect to
>>>> see when I go to the python website, or what I'd expect most users
>>>> would like to see.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, these are perfectly reasonable items to include in an RSS
>>>> feed, which one assumes will be consumed the first time it's seen, but
>>>> I think what that shows is that the front page news feed needs to be
>>>> decoupled from the RSS feed.
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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