Am 02.04.25 um 10:33 schrieb Fiona Ebner:
Am 01.04.25 um 20:21 schrieb Thomas Lamprecht:
Am 01.04.25 um 18:02 schrieb Andreas Rogge:
Um... that has nothing to do with what you provided when we take the
backup. Is there a reason PVE cannot provide a writeable block device to
restore to?

Good idea! I'll look into adding a second restore mechanism with this
approach.

That would be really great!


For Bareos this requirement would imply that we need an unpleasantly
large staging area on the PVE node to facilitate a restore: As we can
only stream the data we'd have to create a temporary disk image that PVE
can then read. This sounds pretty inefficient - especially when
comparing with qmrestore's ability to just read read from stdin.

Bareos could provide a NBD that is streamed directly from the backup
repository, this should be quite efficient w.r.t. space usage.
But as this was v4 and a few things changed, and I'm less involved as
the actual author it might make more sense for her to answer this.

It's still mostly the same in the current version. But yes, you can
provide an NBD URI or path to a FUSE virtual file to avoid the need for
a temporary image.
The main problem here is that Bareos cannot provide random access to the backed up data. When restoring, Bareos provides a linear data-stream containing data and metadata to the backup agent. In case of layered backups (i.e. 1 full + 1 differential + N incrementals) data will be restored out of order: first data from the full, then data from the differential and each incremental. As a result Bareos would have to stall read access to regions that are not yet restored until the data was restored.

The worst-case scenario would be a a full backup and an incremental that contains only an updated first sector of the virual hard drive. In this scenario Bareos has to restore everything but the first sector from the full and will only then restore the first sector from the incremental. As a result Bareos would have to stage the whole virtual disk in a temporary location before qemu could read the first sector of that virtual disk. This not only wastes space as the staging-area must be large enough for that worst-case (and we're not yet talking about running multiple restore jobs in parallel), but also wastes time and resources as we're moving the data twice (Bareos -> staging -> PVE's storage).

While this is clearly suboptimal when compared to what PBS does, it is the only decent way to support direct restore from layered tape backups.

Best Regards,
Andreas

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