On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 5:06:33 PM UTC-4, Poil wrote: > > I'm agree with "Debian is just by design stupid, thinks starting all > services" > All other integration are really fine, but auto-starting after install is > terrible for all configuration management : > Change a path (mysql binary log for example), a mount point (a LV for > mysql) before installing : Nope you can't > You have to write a hack to remove all autostart from the package before > installing it that's incredible. > > I dream about a Debian mix with RedHat, RPM, no auto-start but all the > configuration system from Debian (splited-conf for apache php ... and tools > to manage your modules >
Well, what you're complaining about is the package maintainers, not the OS-- it's the post install scripts that start up the services. You might want to look into openSuSE-- RPM based, but package configuration tends to be more modular than Red Hat. The openSuSE build service is also a nice feature. You'll still run into the same thing with openSuSE and Red Hat-- RHEL7, if you install "nfs-utils" (traditionally the "nfs client" package-- but now it's the server package too), for example, you get the NFS server installed, running, set to auto-start, with portmapper running. And I'm sure for every person who gripes about package X installing itself as 'autostart', you'll find at least one person who complains that they've got to enable the service after installation. Personally, I don't care-- ultimately, I use puppet to ensure the package is installed, configured, and the service is enabled how *I* want it. Nearly all of my configuration changes are linked to the service, so if I update a config file, the service is automatically restarted. That's kind of the whole point of puppet. Calling an OS "stupid" because they made decisions you disagree with is short-sighted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/c94494b2-a5f0-4132-8b8c-041baf174627%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
