On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 9:16:16 AM UTC-6, Aqueos Aqueos wrote: > > in > /opt/puppetlabs/puppet/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/puppet/provider/service/debian.rb > the lines: > > if ((os == 'debian' && majversion >= 8) || (os == 'ubuntu' && > majversion >= 15)) > # SysVInit scripts will always return '0' for status when the > service is masked, > # even if the service is actually stopped. Use the SysVInit-Systemd > compatibility > # layer to determine the actual status. This is only necessary when > the SysVInit > # version of a service is queried. I.e, 'ntp' instead of > 'ntp.service'. > (@resource[:hasstatus] == :true) && ["systemctl", "is-active", > @resource[:name]] > else > super > end > > > this force people to install the systemd package where there is not any > need for it. I don't think puppet should force install of unecessary > package, if we want systemd we would not overide the default provider to > debian and let it to systemd therefor those lines are more a pain thn an > help for me. > >
I understand your dissatisfaction, but I feel obligated to observe that Puppet isn't forcing you to do anything. *Because of peculiarities in Debian*, Puppet cannot properly manage services on some versions of that distro via straight sysV initscripts. This in no way forces you to install systemd; you also have the alternative of not managing services via Puppet in this quirky environment. Inasmuch as this particular characteristic apparently affects only newer versions of Debian (and Debian-derived Ubuntu), I'm inclined to suppose that it arises in part because of a shift in Debian away from SysV init infrastructure, which indeed seems to have become quite the thing to do in the last few years. If you want to complain about someone driving you toward systemd, I suggest you focus on your distro itself. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/dec8a62f-82a8-44d4-b51c-410b1aa907d7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
