Eric Sorenson <eric.soren...@puppetlabs.com> writes: >>> Diversity is very important to us, so this year's survey also asks about >>> gender and diversity in tech.
>> I am still concerned that this is being accomplished through the >> use of misogynist language. I hope that nobody is turned away from the >> field simply by going through this survey! > Hi Tim, I think Alanna, Nigel, and Nicole joined this conversation as well, > but the goal here is not to assert this statement as something the study > authors believe, or they think YOU should believe, but rather as a > statement expressing *one possible* belief, in order to register reactions > ranging from 'strongly agree' to 'strongly disagree'. To be clear: the context is the language in question reads: | Even though it's not politically correct to say it, men are often more | suited than women to do high-level work in my field. This appears on the final page of your (long-ish) survey, well after those surveyed have provided their contact information and well past any mental "point of no return", and with no way to skip the question without simply aborting out. > Sounds like you (and me as well for what it's worth) strongly disagree. I believe that your statement is offensive on its face. To illustrate, I urge you to consider this: would you have been comfortable asking about race or sexual orientation using this same rhetorical style? Your argument on Twitter and G+ has been, if I may paraphrase, "we believe that the science compels us to ask the question in this precise way". Even if I shared your belief, I do not find this to be an adequate excuse for such unprofessional and misogynist language. If you want to pursue this, I believe that an inverted form of the question would have been significantly less offensive, e.g.: Women are just as suited as men to do high-level work in my field. ...but it is, perhaps, too late to change the question. Instead, I suggest that you strike the question from the survey now, and perhaps consider out a less-offensive way to study the question in a future study. (Maybe by funding the authors of the original study for additional research?) - Tim Skirvin (tskir...@fnal.gov) -- HPC Systems Administrator / Developer http://www.linkedin.com/in/tskirvin Fermilab - USCMS-T1 Collaboration Experiment Computing Facilities -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/20150314001211.GO48239%40fnal.gov. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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