You should really reconsider how you are going about things and organizing 
your resources if you have to do stuff like this.

Puppet was never meant to be reactionary in this sense. It's entire purpose 
is to define the state of the system and enforce that state, not to respond 
to the state of the system conditionally.

On Friday, May 31, 2013 10:01:19 AM UTC-6, John Naggets wrote:
>
> Thanks guys for your input. That's correct I am looking to act upon 
> another file's nonexistence... I will go with facter.
>
> On Friday, May 31, 2013 2:57:56 PM UTC+2, Matthias Saou wrote:
>>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> Indeed, I had missed that John was mentioning two different files 
>> ("config.php" vs. "autoconfig.php"). In that case, my only bit of 
>> (useless) advice is : You're not using puppet in the way it's most 
>> efficient, as it's not meant to manage nodes based on changes it 
>> doesn't make itself. 
>>
>> Custom fact, it is... 
>>
>> Matthias 
>>
>> Dan White <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>
>> > That is an excellent example, but I think you miss the original point: 
>> > 
>> > Your example deals with only one file resource - the dot-gitconfig 
>> > file Suppose you only wanted to perform this action if git was 
>> > installed on the system, and do nothing if it was not ? 
>> > 
>> > This additional requirement puts it closer to the original question 
>> > and this is where a custom fact is called for in the opinion of 
>> > several folks on the list including myself. 
>> > 
>> > If you can offer an example that demonstrates otherwise, I would 
>> > welcome it. I do not believe it possible without the custom fact and 
>> > I have several hours of frustrated tinkering to show for it.  I 
>> > wanted to set a parameter in a config file but only if (the config 
>> > file exists and/or the associated package is installed) and found I 
>> > could not do it completely from within the manifest. 
>> > 
>> > “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists 
>> > elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact 
>> > us.” Bill Waterson (Calvin & Hobbes) 
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Matthias Saou" <[email protected]> 
>> > To: [email protected] 
>> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 4:00:15 AM 
>> > Subject: Re: [Puppet Users] Run a File resource only if another file 
>> > is missing 
>> > 
>> > There are other ways. None are nice and clean, but a custom fact just 
>> > for this seems overkill. 
>> > 
>> > Here's a quick example of how I've implemented creating a default 
>> > ~/.gitconfig for users if it doesn't exist, but not modify it if it's 
>> > already there or has been modified. 
>> > 
>> >     $gitconfig_user_name = $mymodule::uservar::fullname[$title] 
>> >     $gitconfig_user_email = "${[email protected]" 
>> >     file { "${home}/.gitconfig": 
>> >       owner   => $owner, 
>> >       group   => $group, 
>> >       mode    => '0644', 
>> >       require => Exec["create-gitconfig-${title}"], 
>> >     } 
>> >     exec { "create-gitconfig-${title}": 
>> >       command => template('mymodule/user/gitconfig.erb'), 
>> >       require => User[$title], 
>> >       creates => "${home}/.gitconfig", 
>> >     } 
>> > 
>> > The gitconfig.erb has the following content : 
>> > /bin/cat > <%= home %>/.gitconfig << EOF 
>> > [user] 
>> >         name = <%= @gitconfig_user_name %> 
>> >         email = <%= @gitconfig_user_email %> 
>> > EOF 
>> > 
>> > Basically, just don't have either 'source' nor 'content' for your file 
>> > resource, and create the initial content using an exec with the 
>> > 'creates' condition. 
>> > 
>> > Matthias 
>> > 
>> > Dan White <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > > Short Answer: You need to create a custom fact that would drive the 
>> > > decision to create the new file resource. 
>> > > 
>> > > I just went thru this issue and also performing an action based on 
>> > > whether or not a package (RPM in my case) is installed. 
>> > > 
>> > > Same answer to both. 
>> > > 
>> > > For the existence of a file, you can do this: 
>> > > 
>> > > #!/bin/bash 
>> > > test -f /var/www/owncloud/config/config.php 
>> > > rc=$? 
>> > > echo "is_my_file_there=${rc}" 
>> > > 
>> > > That goes into /etc/facter/facts.d/ as an executable shell script 
>> > > and then in your manifest: 
>> > > 
>> > > if $::is_my_file_there != 0 { 
>> > >    file { 'autoconfig.php': 
>> > >    ..... 
>> > >    } 
>> > > } 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists 
>> > > elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact 
>> > > us.” Bill Waterson (Calvin & Hobbes) 
>> > > 
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > From: "John Naggets" <[email protected]> 
>> > > To: [email protected] 
>> > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:04:29 PM 
>> > > Subject: [Puppet Users] Run a File resource only if another file is 
>> > > missing 
>> > > 
>> > > Hi, 
>> > > 
>> > > I would like to run the File resource below: 
>> > > 
>> > > file { 'autoconfig.php': 
>> > > path => '/var/www/owncloud/config/autoconfig.php', 
>> > > ensure => file, 
>> > > owner => 'www-data', 
>> > > group => 'www-data', 
>> > > content => template("owncloud/autoconfig.php.erb"), 
>> > > } 
>> > > 
>> > > only when a specific file (in my 
>> > > case: /var/www/owncloud/config/config.php) is missing. Is this 
>> > > somehow possible? Couldn't find my case in the puppet 
>> > > documentation... 
>> > > 
>> > > Thanks! 
>> > > John 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > 
>>
>

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