I'm not sure whether it's buggy behaviour or not, but by comparing the 
daemon.log and an inotify left running on the file I can confirm that it's 
puppet that's making the changes. Whether or not it's someone running 
puppet against a stupid environment or not remains to be seen, but I still 
need to find out what is going on...

Like I say, this is not directly my infrastructure or I'd have a better 
idea.

On Monday, 22 October 2012 14:41:16 UTC+1, jcbollinger wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 19, 2012 10:55:03 AM UTC-5, Matt Carroll wrote:
>>
>> I've been asked to look at a problem on an overseas rig whereby certain 
>> bits of config were going awry. This was down to the fact that they were 
>> querying the mcollective registration database and feeding back in to the 
>> configs, using queries based on class data. The mcollective + mongodb setup 
>> is working fine, but it would appear that the classes.txt file which 
>> mcollective reads to get configuration management classes is, on certain 
>> servers, spuriously being emptied of all classes other than 'settings'
>>
>> Seeing as the settings class is being left in, I can only assume that it 
>> must be puppet doing the modification. Has anyone ever seen behaviour like 
>> this before? It's truly bizarre, and even stranger is that after this has 
>> happened, sometimes the classes populate again. Every time I've run puppet 
>> manually  with puppetd --test or run it --noop, it's run just fine and 
>> without noop it always seems to fix the problem, but later the node will 
>> show up as having only one class again and even later fix itself, so it's 
>> next to impossible to pin down.
>>
>> This is 2.6.7 on Ubuntu running against a centralised puppetmaster.
>>
>
>
> Are you certain the behavior is buggy?  The fact that Puppet rights itself 
> makes me think that Puppet itself is not the problem.
>
> What if there is a cron job (or a human admin) that periodically does 
> something like "puppetd --onetime --no-daemonize --tags settings"?  Or what 
> if the affected node's manifests use schedules in a way that occasionally 
> excludes all classes except 'settings'?  The former, at least, should show 
> up in the system log.
>
> You might also get some insight by wrapping puppetd in a script that makes 
> a timestamped backup of classes.txt after each run.  Done right, that ought 
> to establish whether Puppet is the one writing the unexpected content, and 
> if so then the timestamps when the bad files appear might tell you 
> something useful.  Perhaps you could dredge the same information out of 
> your system logs, but the timestamped backups might be easier to analyze 
> (and they would pinpoint where in your logs to look for additional 
> information).
>
>
> John
>
>

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