Hi,

On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 06:06 -0700, jcbollinger wrote:
> 
> 
> On Monday, September 24, 2012 6:11:33 PM UTC-5, Fabrice Bacchella
> wrote:
>         
>         My main problem was not with puppet failing, I managed to find
>         the cause, and it was my own mistake. I was much more suprised
>         by the output to a null'ed stderr. I think that should never
>         happen. Either fd2 is still stderr and it's OK to send message
>         to it, or it's been redirected to /dev/null and no one should
>         write to it.
>         
>         
> 
> And thus I recommended that you file a ticket.  When Puppet is running
> in daemon mode it does normally direct diagnostic messages to syslog.
> You seem to have discovered a window when messages are no longer being
> sent to the terminal but are not yet being delivered to syslog.
> 
> I cannot speak specifically to why fd 2 is redirected to /dev/null,
> but it is fairly likely that this is a function of the Ruby
> implementation, not a knowing choice by Puppet.

Redirection of stderr to /dev/null in a daemonized process is very
common in the unix world.  That puppet doesn't also send that message
through it's log routines so that you can see it somewhere (presumably
syslog) is the issue that needs addressing.

It may be that you've found a race condition where something can go
wrong between closing its fds and opening its logs.

Cheers,
-- 
Stephen Gran
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