hello Jenner:

thank you.

without intending to be rude or scornful: using MCollective? hmmm. instead, 
i can use a simple shell script, and it works great in minutes. Puppet 
makes us go bonkers and i do not think its really intuitive to understand. 
instead a procedural scipt is just great.

i find this restriction very strange, though i understood recently that you 
use Puppet to declare how a system should be.

i have a problem: i want to install a software package on multiple nodes 
and then have to run a configure program to configure all the nodes. its 
not distributing configuration files, i have to run the program only on 1 
of the nodes or from a separate machine. its not easy to synchronize all 
the nodes and to ensure that all machines are in the same state before you 
run the configure.

instead, it damn easy to run the Install and Configure from a single 
machine to all the Nodes. no synchronization problems and one manifest to 
maintain.

Puppet also has big issues with this scenario: from one machine to check 
the status of a file on another machine and to then take action. the File{} 
resource only applies to the local machine. so, how do i do distributed 
system admin or remote sys admin?

i spend so much time to learn Puppet, we pay a good deal for it, and we 
spend some time to understand how to use the declarative language, but i 
cannot do simple things. even doing an 'echo' to log output is so 
complicated. if we have to resort to using Ruby, its even more complicated. 
enhances my qualifications, but is it that vital to use it?

genuinely puzzled,

Aaron


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