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> 
> 
> On Jan 19, 11:01 am, "R.I.Pienaar" <r...@devco.net> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Defined() doesn't suck! It's a 100% reliable way to check what
> > > classes and defined types are available to the autoloader. I
> > > challenge anyone
> > > to find me an example of this usage that fails.
> >
> > can you give an example of this use case pls?
> 
> Well... that's something I realized after I posted that, is I'm not
> sure if anyone WANTS a reliable way to test the autoloader.
> (Obviously
> people do want a way to check for resource instances, which is why
> defined() keeps getting used for that...)
> 
> But anyway! Say you make a module for a network service and you want
> it to be able to manage its own firewall rule. You know of a defined
> type for firewall rules, and you're using it, but you want your
> module
> to be portable and you know of good reasons why someone wouldn't be
> using your iptables module.
> 
> So, you can conditionally declare the rule if the defined type is
> available to the autoloader, and otherwise you don't attempt to
> manage
> the firewall and expect that the user has read the documentation and
> will make a hole for the service themselves.
> 
> if defined(firewall::iptables::rule) {
>   firewall::iptables::rule {'mysql_server':
>     ...etc. etc.
>   }
> }
> 
> See? It's just a way to peek around at what the user has installed.

right, I must have missed this behavior previously, yeah this has value
and should be retained, checking for declared resources should go then

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