Thank you for the messages everyone. You have definitely given me some
information to go back to the team with.

On Dec 9, 3:33 am, Daniel Pittman <dan...@puppetlabs.com> wrote:
> I would totally recommend Puppet Commander in place of that, if you
> have the time to get it running:
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> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/mcollective-plugins/wiki/Tool...
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> It uses mcollective and is pretty much awesome.
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> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 21:22, Brian Gallew <g...@gallew.org> wrote:
> > Let me emphasize the beauty of running Puppet out of cron.  Not only do you
> > not end up with resource leaks (or just simple consumption when you don't
> > need it), but you also get much more reliable load on your puppet masters.
> >  Further, if you are wiling to make a trivial effort to write a
> > site-specific fqdn_rand() work-alike function, you can even arrange to be
> > sure that updates roll across related servers in a reliable way.
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> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Jeffrey Watts <jeffrey.w.wa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> >> I've found Puppet to be unreliable running as a daemon - I suspect due to
> >> older versions of ruby floating around. So I switched to running it from
> >> cron, and it works a lot better. Memory usage doesn't seem to be an issue,
> >> and the agent only runs for a few seconds.  Use Puppet Dasboard (or
> >> something like it) and/or use Nagios to make sure those cron jobs run.   I
> >> use both.
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> >> The main thing is to have Puppet managing itself and the cron job. I have
> >> ours set up to run the cron job twice an hour, using the concatenated IP
> >> address modulo 30 and modulo 30 + 30 as the times (to keep the clients from
> >> hammering the Puppetmaster all at once).  Let me know if you go with Puppet
> >> and I'll show you how I did it.
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> >> Part of the reason we chose Puppet was the quantity of documentation and
> >> working examples and the helpfulness of the community. I support (and
> >> implement) our Puppet environment here at my job. I would highly recommend
> >> Mr Turnbull's Pro Puppet book. It is VERY sysadmin focused and will save 
> >> you
> >> a lot of time.  The sections on environments, modules, and Dashboard were
> >> really helpful.
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> >> Jeffrey
> >> Sent from my iPad
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> >> On Dec 8, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Luke <lutay...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > This tool will be used by primarily system admins to automate server
> >> > builds app installs, configurations etc. The devs will use it in their
> >> > own environment to help automate some of their tasks. I don't think we
> >> > have too much Ruby expertise since we are mostly a Java shop.
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> >> > In terms of performance I have read that CFengine uses much less
> >> > memory and can be faster than puppet. Can anyone comment on the agent
> >> > and server memory usage? I have read that the puppet agent can use
> >> > 85mb and the server upwards to 1GB after 20-30agents. Is that
> >> > accurate?
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> >> > I guess which tool would you consider to be the quickest, easy to
> >> > implement etc? From what I am seeing the community here seems to be
> >> > much more active than the others. I have yet to get a response on the
> >> > other forums.
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> >> > On Dec 8, 4:39 pm, Jeffrey Watts <jeffrey.w.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> I should also add that a very important consideration is to take in
> >> >> mind
> >> >> _who_ will be working with this.  Are they developers, sysadmins, QA?
> >> >>  Will
> >> >> the people working on it be spending a lot of time with
> >> >> Puppet/Chef/CFengine, or just a little?  Are you planning on writing a
> >> >> bunch of custom modules, or relying on the community?  What languages
> >> >> does
> >> >> your team work on primarily?  For example, folks that work with Ruby a
> >> >> lot
> >> >> would probably do better with Puppet and Chef.
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> >> >> As a sysadmin, I often see developers get distracted by arguments about
> >> >> what's "best" or the most technically advanced.  Often they forget that
> >> >> in
> >> >> the end the real answer is often which tool gets the job done the
> >> >> quickest,
> >> >> with the least amount of labor, and is the most supportable.
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> >> >> Jeffrey.
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> >> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Daniel Pittman
> >> >> <dan...@puppetlabs.com>wrote:
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> >> >>> Instead, I suggest you focus on your ability to learn the concrete use
> >> >>> of the tool, and on how effectively you can solve problems with them;
> >> >>> doing a small trial of each - solve the same mid-sized problem three
> >> >>> times, giving each a day or two - and see what you think works best
> >> >>> for your company and culture.
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> >> >>> There is no silver bullet.
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