on 10:54 Wed 02 Mar, Nigel Kersten (ni...@puppetlabs.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Mike Lococo <mikeloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > So Russell, the short of it is that Puppet doesn't provide much to help you
> > manage source-installed software.  You can apply puppet's features to other
> > software-management tools to roll something yourself, you can package the
> > software, or you can just keep building from source.  The last option is
> > likely to be the least time-consuming IMO.  If you want details on my
> > packaging setup, feel free to reach out to me offline.
> 
> We've tossed around in the past the idea of a tarball "package"
> provider, which sounds like it might suit your needs?
> 
> If we can come up with a reasonable rough heuristic to work out how to
> determine if a tarball package is installed, and whether it needs to
> be replaced by a newer version, I'm totally willing to hack this up,
> as it's really quite trivial code.

While you're considering providers, another case we encounter fairly
frequently are just general crap ISV or HW vendor-provided blob shell
installers.  Usually a self-unpacking shell script, which may itself
include various internal packaging formats (tarballs, RPMs, etc.).
Dell, VMWare, Oracle, and others.

In the case of these, there's /ususally/ an unattended install options
(generally driven by an options file), otherwise there are the various
frustrations of EULA approvals, etc.

I haven't put deep thought into a puppet solution, but the generalized
method would be for the installer script / binary / ISO image, a
configuration script (or arbitrary shell arguments and ancillary file
list(s)), and some arbitrary post-installation test providing some level
of assurance that what you wanted to have installed was actually
installed.

Real packaging tools make this so much more sensible to manage.
Grumble.

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