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* scheduler problem? [1 Update]
* Do we need a new name for "--test"? [34 Updates]
* mcollective for rhel 4 [2 Updates]
* Puppet dashboard don't show current day [2
Updates]
* Behavior of local modules and their included
facts [1 Update]
* problems with dependencies [2 Updates]
* high 500 error rate on file metadata operations
[1 Update]
* PSA: Please use <pre> tags when reporting bugs.
[1 Update]
* another 2.6 question... stages [1 Update]
Topic: scheduler problem?
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/t/e00eda15de69b533>
Antony Mayi <antonym...@yahoo.com> Jan 24 11:29AM
^
Hi Nan,
thanks. I have removed the schedule
(re)definition but it does still the same -
the tidy is called on every run (every 30
minutes). the state.yaml after a
typical run has following more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/7199a3f934647c02
>
Topic: Do we need a new name for "--test"?
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/t/fbe7bcfe04b5f657>
Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
01:33PM -0800 ^
https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/2476
This does seem to confuse a fair few new users.
What would be a better name for "--test"?
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/d3dd3cbe311368e8
>
Adam Nielsen <a.niel...@shikadi.net> Jan 24
07:50AM +1000 ^
> https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/2476
> This does seem to confuse a fair few new users.
> What would be a better name for "--test"?
Using Gentoo's emerge as an example, how about
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/4f4c6c8b58c491c2
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Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
02:15PM -0800 ^
>> This does seem to confuse a fair few new
users.
>> What would be a better name for "--test"?
> Using Gentoo's emerge as an example, how about
--oneshot?
It's more than that though.
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/69a330193ef7d96d
>
Denmat <tu2bg...@gmail.com> Jan 24 09:35AM +1100
^
I was thinking '--update' as that is what it does
but then that doesn't describe the '--one-time' nature of it
explicitly.
I always felt funny updating hosts with 'test'
though :)
Hard one.
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/1313878342cdbaa7
>
Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> Jan 23 02:44PM -0800 ^
On Jan 23, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Adam Nielsen wrote:
>> This does seem to confuse a fair few new
users.
>> What would be a better name for "--test"?
> Using Gentoo's emerge as an example, how
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/32700f78acf03e7>
Daniel Pittman <dan...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23 03:35PM -0800 ^
My inclination is to say that "ontime" or
"verbose" have stolen the name for
another concept; perhaps "interactive" covers the
standard use-case well
enough?
Daniel
>>> What would be a better more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/ba3086cb22134102
>
Dan Bode <d...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23 03:38PM
-0800 ^
> >>> https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/2476
> >>> This does seem to confuse a fair few new
users.
> >>> What would be a better name for "--test"?
maybe we could keep --test and add more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/76601ceef12222cd
>
Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
03:48PM -0800 ^
>> >>> This does seem to confuse a fair few new
users.
>> >>> What would be a better name for "--test"?
> maybe we could keep --test and add --noop to
the list of options in sets.
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/244d60976141b243
>
James Louis <jgloui...@gmail.com> Jan 23 06:02PM
-0600 ^
and what is the current functionality for the
--test option?
--
“Twenty years from now you will be more
disappointed by the things that you
didn’t do than by the ones you did do. more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/e8eae94aa11e26d8
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Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> Jan 23 04:42PM -0800 ^
On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:02 PM, James Louis wrote:
> and what is the current functionality for the
--test option?
To quote Nigel:
--onetime
--no-daemonize
--ignorecache
--verbose more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/4b97b5f36bd44de0
>
James Louis <jgloui...@gmail.com> Jan 23 06:47PM
-0600 ^
that tells what options are applied when --test
is used but doesn't explain
the functionality of --test (i.e. --test is an
option to enable the puppet
agent to test it's connection to the puppet
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/908f0f7f43eb6443
>
Stefan Schulte <stefan.schu...@taunusstein.net>
Jan 24 01:49AM +0100 ^
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 03:48:16PM -0800, Nigel
Kersten wrote:
> some sympathy for that position, but before we
can get there, we need
> to have a name for the existing functionality
that I don't more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/ff53e41916079ae3
>
Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> Jan 23 04:50PM -0800 ^
On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:47 PM, James Louis wrote:
> that tells what options are applied when --test
is used but doesn't explain the functionality of --test (i.e.
--test is an option to enable the more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/716d2ac4f39c3907
>
James Louis <jgloui...@gmail.com> Jan 23 06:53PM
-0600 ^
exactly. to what purpose?
--
“Twenty years from now you will be more
disappointed by the things that you
didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw
off the bowlines. Sail away more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/2db6dda09757cd4f
>
Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
05:22PM -0800 ^
> exactly. to what purpose?
To trigger an immediate run on a client with the
common options used
when testing a real run, not a noop run.
If there was a clear word that described this
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/f353c7fb94ce4412
>
James Louis <jgloui...@gmail.com> Jan 23 07:34PM
-0600 ^
so the actual changes take place, if any, during
a test vs a noop which does
not let the actual changes take place. So this
would be used primarily for
configuration testing? Or perhaps for more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/6b548d99953bbd1f
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Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
05:51PM -0800 ^
> so the actual changes take place, if any,
during a test vs a noop which does
> not let the actual changes take place. So this
would be used primarily for
> configuration testing? Or perhaps for more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/3994d632374b04de
>
eshamow <eric.sha...@gmail.com> Jan 23 05:58PM
-0800 ^
I can tell you that for me, and for my group,
it's a halfway step
between reloading Puppet and watching the logs,
and a full --debug --
no-daemonize run.
So for instance, when they're more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/ae6e3bb895a0258c
>
James Louis <jgloui...@gmail.com> Jan 23 08:16PM
-0600 ^
so the purpose of having a noop is to run the
same test but to not actually
make any changes. do we get the same debug
messages, etc?
--
“Twenty years from now you will be more
disappointed more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/80c79a8f81fa29d>
Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> Jan 23 07:23PM -0800 ^
No, because sometimes making the changes causes
the error.
For instance, if you are using a File resource to
create a file in a read-only file-system (which isn't possible)
the resource will tell more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/d1b35186370e1f99
>
Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> Jan 23 07:26PM -0800 ^
On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:53 PM, James Louis wrote:
> > that tells what options are applied when
--test is used but doesn't explain the functionality of --test
(i.e. --test is an option to enable the more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/6f0ed82ca21de926
>
Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> Jan 23 07:27PM -0800 ^
On Jan 23, 2011, at 5:58 PM, eshamow wrote:
> It might be wise to consider combining a bunch
of similar options
> (verbose, test, debug, etc) into a "verbose"
with levels of output -- more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/b53be26b1d611377
>
Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> Jan 23 07:30PM -0800 ^
On Jan 23, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Stefan Schulte
wrote:
> (maybe it does so already). We could then say
--test --no-noop to match
> current behaviour.
> -Stefan
I think this is a really bad more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/c40dcb1e2545c4dc
>
Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
07:38PM -0800 ^
>> -Stefan
> I think this is a really bad idea because I
really think Puppet has broken a lot of things recently and
people use --test in automatic scripts.
> This is really almost always an more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/8ddaf1872f18c305
>
Jesse Reynolds <jessedreyno...@gmail.com> Jan 23
10:27PM -0800 ^
--manual
?
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/c33ee19af8a85b7a
>
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen <s...@fnord.no> Jan 24
07:56AM +0100 ^
> I know some people use it whenever they want
"--verbose --no-daemonize
> --onetime".
This is common use of the puppet agent at my
site.
--
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/22903c06821f6248
>
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen <s...@fnord.no> Jan 24
08:36AM +0100 ^
> --manual
Looks better than --interactive, since I don't
assume it will start
asking me questions. :)
--
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Oooo, shiny!
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/5485e90e6f2b4296
>
Daniel Pittman <dan...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 24
12:13AM -0800 ^
>> --manual
> Looks better than --interactive, since I don't
assume it will start
> asking me questions. :)
I like it too.
Daniel
--
⎋ Puppet Labs Developer – more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/f3c2d0ba394e2fff
>
DEGREMONT Aurelien <aurelien.degrem...@cea.fr>
Jan 24 09:27AM +0100 ^
Nigel Kersten a écrit :
> when testing a real run, not a noop run.
> If there was a clear word that described this
functionality, we
> probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/559a57524f22842b
>
"Carles Amigó" <carles.am...@softonic.com> Jan 24
11:38AM +0100 ^
+1
El 24/01/2011 9:13, Daniel Pittman escribió:
>> asking me questions. :)
> I like it too.
> Daniel
--
Carles Amigó
Linux System Administrator
carles.am...@softonic.com
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/4a0be4f51eb4066e
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Adam Nielsen <a.niel...@shikadi.net> Jan 24
09:00PM +1000 ^
> --verbose
> --no-usecacheonfailure
> and I think I'm missing some newer additions
too.
Hmm that's true, and it is similar to --onetime.
How about --explain? The
end result is that you get more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/192cc6d6dafb738>
Jonathan Gazeley <jonathan.gaze...@bristol.ac.uk> Jan 24 11:01AM
^
On 24/01/11 11:00, Adam Nielsen wrote:
> added to do the same with no-op as well.
> Cheers,
> Adam.
How about simply --once ? Nice and quick to type.
Jonathan
-- more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/19f7280b37790b73
>
Adam Nielsen <a.niel...@shikadi.net> Jan 24
09:11PM +1000 ^
>> Hmm that's true, and it is similar to
--onetime. How about --explain?
>> The end result is that you get a detailed
explanation of what is happening.
> How about simply --once ? Nice and quick
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/c19d135db7d8c956
>
Thorsten Biel <thorsten.b...@porsche.de> Jan 24
12:22PM +0100 ^
On Jan 24, 2011, at 12:00, Adam Nielsen wrote:
>> and I think I'm missing some newer additions
too.
> Hmm that's true, and it is similar to
--onetime. How about --explain? The end result is more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/dac514ef05060f52
>
Topic: mcollective for rhel 4
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/t/4c6bbbe891d71082>
eshamow <eric.sha...@gmail.com> Jan 23 05:23PM
-0800 ^
The Fedora 13 SRPMs backport pretty easily, and
you get the advantage
of Ruby 1.8.6.
-Eric
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/e523b679921a0f35
>
Ohad Levy <ohadl...@gmail.com> Jan 24 11:08AM
+0200 ^
> The Fedora 13 SRPMs backport pretty easily, and
you get the advantage
> of Ruby 1.8.6.
> -Eric
Sure, but for those who don't want to
replace/break the internals of ruby on
rhel4... :)
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/540eca7921dacb0f
>
Topic: Puppet dashboard don't show current day
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/t/6d9c8dda8feda0ff>
Nicolas Aizier <nicolas.aiz...@googlemail.com>
Jan 23 05:43PM -0800 ^
I made some more research on this problem and
found another one. I
think it's linked.
The 30th day of puppet (the one the more on the
left side in puppet-
dashboard) is slowly decrasing in term more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/20844acbfb20284e
>
Nicolas Aizier <nicolas.aiz...@googlemail.com>
Jan 23 09:48PM -0800 ^
Raised bug #5983 about those points.
On Jan 24, 11:43 am, Nicolas Aizier
<nicolas.aiz...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/2de3d92e0352da4c
>
Topic: Behavior of local modules and their included
facts
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/t/de0c9b342bd7007>
Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
02:18PM -0800 ^
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Nick Fagerlund
> issues/4180). This was never fixed in 0.25.x,
right? Should we re-open
> or file a new ticket?
> (Also, should this bug be mentioned in the
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/c22a49d9fed12797
>
Topic: problems with dependencies
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/t/da35198378c28b21>
"russell.fulton" <russell.ful...@gmail.com> Jan
23 01:17PM -0800 ^
Thanks John... using before worked.
I'm new to puppet and I found the independent
resource chaining stuff
before I found 'before' which I note is not
mentioned anywhere in the
docs for exec.
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/641f0980d2171af>
Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23 02:17PM -0800 ^
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 1:17 PM, russell.fulton
> docs for exec.
> is this a doc bug or is it a generic option
available with all
> resources?
It's the latter Russell. You can find them all in
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/4b7ca4d915cfd26c
>
Topic: high 500 error rate on file metadata operations
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/t/8f78a3f1d71afa2>
Daniel Pittman <dan...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
01:59PM -0800 ^
> logging of puppet errors. I've done some
analysis of the logs that I
> have and found that the majority of the 500s
(~83%) received by our
> Ubuntu clients are on file metadata operations:
more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/3554c5d0fc1cddf9
>
Topic: PSA: Please use <pre> tags when reporting bugs.
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/t/5e4c1ffd8b340533>
Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
01:48PM -0800 ^
It's particularly difficult to understand what's
going on with a given
bug report when the log/manifest/terminal output
is all being
mis-interpreted as Markdown text.
We'll definitely try and more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/acc9991164c5415e
>
Topic: another 2.6 question... stages
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/t/2aa399bda4e013fb>
Daniel Pittman <dan...@puppetlabs.com> Jan 23
09:49AM -0800 ^
> }
> Is it safe to assume that "foo" will always be
managed during the preamble
> stage regardless of other definitions?
Puppet will treat a dependency that would violate
that expectation as more...
<http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/4c4b9441463c6826
>
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