On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:08 AM, luke.bigum <luke.bi...@fasthosts.co.uk> wrote:
> I've seen the same issue as well. I just tested then, adding a simple
> notify resource to a node and it took three consecutive runs of
> puppetd before the message appeared:

Is it the number of runs or is it simply time based?

>
> # puppetd --test
> info: Retrieving plugin
> info: Caching catalog for puppet-master-01
> info: Applying configuration version '1289376693'
> notice: Finished catalog run in 30.24 seconds
> # puppetd --test
> info: Retrieving plugin
> info: Caching catalog for puppet-master-01
> info: Applying configuration version '1289377768'
> notice: Finished catalog run in 24.98 seconds
> # puppetd --test
> info: Retrieving plugin
> info: Caching catalog for puppet-master-01
> info: Applying configuration version '1289379786'
> notice: foo
> notice: /Stage[main]//Node[puppet-master-01]/Notify[test]/message:
> defined 'message' as 'foo'
> notice: Finished catalog run in 26.46 seconds
>
>
> # /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin/gem list
>
> *** LOCAL GEMS ***
>
> facter (1.5.8)
> fastthread (1.0.7)
> mysql (2.8.1)
> passenger (2.2.9)
> puppet (2.6.2)
> rack (1.1.0)
> rake (0.8.7)
>
>
> On Nov 9, 9:08 pm, Jeremy Carroll <phobos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am having the same issue, and am running about the same stack.
>>
>> CentOS 5.5
>>
>> facter (1.5.8)
>> fastthread (1.0.7)
>> passenger (2.2.15)
>> puppet (2.6.2)
>> puppet-module (0.3.0)
>> rack (1.1.0)
>> rake (0.8.7)
>> stomp (1.1.6)
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Kent <kentmshu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Patrick, thanks for the speedy reply once again.
>>
>> > I'm using RHEL5 and Puppet 2.6.1, Passenger 2.2.7, Rack 1.1.0.
>>
>> > From what I've read in this group and in Puppet Labs docs/wikis,
>> > Debian/Ubuntu users do seem to have an easier time generally than
>> > CentOS/Red Hat :-\
>>
>> > Can I pass my command-line options to Puppetmasterd in the config.ru
>> > file?
>>
>> > -Kent
>>
>> > On Nov 9, 10:53 am, Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Kent wrote:
>>
>> > > > On Nov 8, 11:07 am, Patrick <kc7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Kent wrote:
>>
>> > > >>> Hi all,
>>
>> > > >>> I'm a new puppet user and new to the forum.
>>
>> > > >>> I just switched my Puppetmaster to running inside Apache (via
>> > > >>> Passenger). When I make a change to a resource on the master, it
>> > > >>> sometimes takes a given node TWO runs before the master will realize
>> > > >>> the resource has changed and recompile a new catalog version for the
>> > > >>> node. For example, say my puppetmaster is serving configuration
>> > > >>> version '123' to a node. I change the file permissions for a file
>> > > >>> resource that's part of that catalog and then do a puppet run on the
>> > > >>> node. If I'm running with Passenger, the master serves config version
>> > > >>> '123' one more time (the agent makes no changes). The next time I run
>> > > >>> the node's agent, the master compiles new catalog version '456' and
>> > > >>> the agent makes the permission change.
>>
>> > > >>> A few items of note:
>>
>> > > >>> 1.  This is not a problem with all changes to puppet module content.
>> > > >>> For example, if I change the source contents of a file in the 'files'
>> > > >>> directory of a module, the master will notice this immediately and
>> > the
>> > > >>> puppet agent on the node will grab the new file on the first run
>> > > >>> following the change on the master.
>>
>> > > >> Fact:
>> > > >> Files sent using "source" aren't part of the catalog.  Instead, the
>> > client asks the server for them while the client is using the catalog and
>> > not during the compilation done on the server.
>>
>> > > >> Speculation:
>> > > >> I would guess this is because the problem you are having is happening
>> > during the compilation on the server.
>>
>> > > >>> 2.  At first I thought maybe this was a timing issue (e.g. I was
>> > doing
>> > > >>> the puppet run too quickly after making the resource change) but it's
>> > > >>> not; whether I wait 5 seconds or 5 minutes before making the first
>> > > >>> puppet run, the master still doesn't notice the change.  I set the
>> > > >>> 'filetimeout' setting in /etc/puppet/puppet.conf to 0 and it didn't
>> > > >>> help.
>>
>> > > >>> Any ideas on what's going on here? (thanks in advance for your help)
>>
>> > > > Ahh, Ok, that makes sense. The source files are not part of the
>> > > > manifests, just pointed to by them.
>>
>> > > > However, I am still having a problem with changed manifests not
>> > > > getting "noticed" by the Puppetmaster until the second run after it's
>> > > > been changed. This is only a problem when running puppetmaster as a
>> > > > rack app inside Apache. Of course, if I restart Apache it will serve
>> > > > up the most recent manifests on the first puppet run that connects to
>> > > > it, but it would be irritating to have to restart httpd every time I
>> > > > want to make a change to a module/manifest.
>>
>> > > > I also tried setting the puppet.conf option 'ignorecache = true' to no
>> > > > avail. (side note: on the "servertype" option in puppet.conf, official
>> > > > documentation still states that the only valid modes are 'webrick' and
>> > > > 'mongrel'. What is the appropriate mode for running with passenger?)
>>
>> > > My puppetmaster is working fine and that option isn't set which means
>> > it's defaulting to webrick.
>>
>> > > > Final note: The puppetmaster always logs that it has compiled a
>> > > > catalog and expired the cached one, even on the first runs where the
>> > > > new manifest does not yet take effect. (and annoyingly, puppetmaster
>> > > > under passenger now logs to /var/log/messages instead of /var/log/
>> > > > puppet/puppetmaster.log;
>>
>> > > I don't know how to fix this, but this doesn't happen under Ubuntu.
>>
>> > > > it seems puppetmaster as a rack application
>> > > > does not look at /etc/sysconfig/puppetmaster - so I can't add options
>> > > > like verbosity, etc.)
>>
>> > > Correct.  Files in /etc/sysconfig are red when a service starts.  When
>> > using passenger, the service is apache and puppetmaster is one of it's
>> > subprocesses.
>>
>> > > The equivalent file is config.ru.  It's in the folder you specify in the
>> > apache config file.  Just do a "find / -name config.ru".
>>
>> > > That said, you really shouldn't need to change it if puppetmaster is
>> > managing to startup at all.
>>
>> > > > To me, it seems like there needs to be better Puppet Labs
>> > > > documentation on the differences between running Puppetmaster
>> > > > "normally" (e.g. with /etc/init.d/puppetmaster) versus as a Rack
>> > > > application.
>>
>> > > What distro are you using?
>>
>> > > What version of puppet are you using? (puppet --version)
>>
>> > > How did you install puppet?
>>
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