On Nov 9, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Edward Bailey wrote:

> The purpose behind setting up the fact this way is that I thought it would be 
> an easy way to populate servers with extra metadata without having to drop a 
> file and then a fact with some shell code on every server. 
> 
> For example, we have a number of servers that simply cannot be identified as 
> being part of say the dev final integration test environment without the 
> addition of something like a fact. Nothing native to the server such as the 
> host name would be of any use. By dropping a file in /etc/profile.d using the 
> environmental variable feature of facter looked like a real easy way to 
> create the metadata I need. Now that I know this approach will not work I 
> will use option 2 and go on with life. Its not a big deal I was just confused 
> for a little bit.

Does "server" mean "puppet server" or "puppet client that serving something not 
related to puppet"?

> 
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Nigel Kersten <ni...@puppetlabs.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM,  <eds.mailing.list.acco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ok - that makes sense, but why does facter have a feature
> > http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/faq.html#can-i-access-environmental-variables-with-facter
> > where you can expose environmental variables as facts if puppet will not
> > recognize the facts? Is the issue because of the old version of facter I am
> > using?
> 
> Most times I've seen people use this functionality has been with
> puppetd in non-daemon mode.
> 
> FACTER_foo="woot" puppetd --onetime --verbose --no-daemonize
> 
> Plus, this works well with standalone "puppet" applying local
> manifests too. It looks like things aren't so simple in daemon mode.
> 
> Is there a reason you're not actually doing this as a real fact?
> 
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > On Nov 9, 2010 5:45pm, Zach Leslie <z...@puppetlabs.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Ed,
> >>
> >> You are correct that the environment will not get imported into puppet.
> >> When you restart the puppet daemon, you are missing your custom fact 
> >> because
> >> daemon will run as its own process with its own environment, so just
> >> exporting the variable will only effect your current running environment 
> >> and
> >> not the puppet daemon environment.  As such, the behavior your are seeing 
> >> is
> >> expected.
> >>
> >>
> >> Looking around, I think this looks like a better way to get facts in:
> >> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Adding_Facts
> >>
> >> This will allow you to get some level of synchronization of your custom
> >> facts from your master to your clients in a much cleaner way.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Zach
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Edward Bailey
> >> eds.mailing.list.acco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am having a great deal of trouble using a custom fact in a module and I
> >> am hoping someone can help me out.
> >>
> >>
> >> I am using  facter-1.5.0-2.el4 and  puppet-0.24.5-1.el4. I know these are
> >> really old versions.
> >>
> >> The custom fact is defined using an environmental variable
> >>
> >>
> >> export FACTER_VERTICAL="dev fit"
> >>
> >> and I can see the fact in the output of facter
> >>
> >> [xxxxx ~]# facter | grep -i vertical
> >>                  vertical => dev fit
> >>
> >> In the module I am trying to use the fact in the following way
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> file    { "/etc/yum.repos.d/env32-envision.repo":
> >>                 ensure => present,
> >>                 mode     => 0664,
> >>                 owner    => root,
> >>                 group    => root,
> >>
> >>
> >>                 content   => $vertical ? {
> >>                         "dev fit" =>
> >> template("ads_yum2/env32-dev-fit.repo.erb"),
> >>                         default =>
> >> template("ads_yum2/env32-dev-staging.repo.erb"),
> >>
> >>
> >>                 require => File["/etc/yum.repos.d/base_os.repo"],
> >>                 }
> >>         }
> >>
> >> When I restart puppet the output is the default option instead of the "dev
> >> fit" option. If I run puppet interactively "puppetd --debug --test" I get
> >> the correct output based on the custom fact. I understand that puppet will
> >> not inherent environmental variables but since the fact is present I 
> >> thought
> >> this approach would work. Am I wrong?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have been banging my head against the wall over this for some time. I
> >> appreciate any input.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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