On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 12:26:44 PM UTC-7, Joshua Hoblitt wrote: > > I received marketing email this morning about "Puppet Application > Orchestration". I'm guessing this is related to PRFC-6 and the recent > PR's for PUP-XXXXs that are not publicly accessible. > > If this feature is indeed related to PRFC-6, the index page lists this > PRFC as being in "draft" status. Per PRFC-0, the approval process is > supposed to be draft -> posted -> submitted -> candidate -> funded -> > completed. I don't recall any discussion on this list other than the > issues that can up with "application" became a reserved word. > > To be clear, I am not complaining about features being developed behind > closed doors. Rather, I'm wondering why the PRFC process was > [potentially] not followed for a major feature? Is there not enough > community engagement? Is it too slow? Is it a failed experiment at this > point? >
Hi Josh. I'm glad we had a chance to chat briefly at PuppetConf but wanted to follow-up on the list as well. As you indicated, PRFC-6 was Luke's early thinking of what we recently announced as Puppet Application Orchestration. Our approach to building this wasn't a reflection of the PRFC process as much as it was an attempt to put forward a complete thought for how we see these ideas coming together to manage applications with the full set of services provided by Puppet Enterprise. For me, it's a starting point. Shortly after the release of PE 2015.3, we'll have the Puppet release out with the language extensions behind a feature flag and plan to provide tooling by early next year. As more information becomes available and you have a chance to get your hands on the product, I hope we can discuss what's working, what's not working and develop the next iterations on these ideas through the PRFC process. Regarding the publicly inaccessible PUP tickets, I was trying to avoid early confusion before anything had hit the Puppet repo and neglected to fix the situation as I got swept up by PuppetConf. I'll clean up the project next week, after brief PTO. Sorry about that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-dev/3385607a-d36a-434f-8e53-04d68903a4be%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.