On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Jason Antman <ja...@jasonantman.com> wrote:

>  My heart stopped when I read this, though after reading the tickets, I
> think I'm a little more clear on it, and less concerned.
>
>
Yes, all existing environments will continue to work in 3.5.0. The new
environment system is still somewhat experimental in 3.5 and should be
feature complete in 3.6. At that point the current environments will still
work, but puppet will start issuing deprecations warnings.


> Just to confirm, the existing functionality will continue to work until
> the new directory-based environments are feature complete, correct?
>
> My specific concerns are around how I currently have environments
> configured; the salient parts are:
>    modulepath =
> /etc/puppet/environments/$environment/modules:/etc/puppet/environments/$environment/modules-community
> i.e. I have 2 modulepaths within each environment
>

The modulepath will be possible once we do PUP-1596.


>    config_version =
> /etc/puppet/environments/$environment/config_version.sh $environment
> we have a Jenkins workflow wrapped around testing branches and promoting
> them through dev, test and prod. This is heavily dependent on all reports
> including config_version, which includes the current HEAD commit hash of
> the environment.
>
>
Ok, I hadn't thought about that use of config_version (passing the
environment as a parameter to the script). I was hoping to remove the
$environment interpolation (PUP-1114) as a way to clearly move away from
the current dynamic environment pattern, but maybe that won't be possible.


> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
>
> On 02/21/2014 03:41 AM, Joshua Partlow wrote:
>
>  Hi folks,
>
>  (TL;DR: in 3.5.0+ environments will change to be named directories with
> a specific structure and configurable defaults, all to be found in a
> configured 'environmentpath')
>
>  Andy, Henrik and I have been working on the new environment system
> intended to eventually replace the current options for defining static and
> dynamic environments with a single enumerable alternative.  I'm going to
> try and summarize where that work stands for 3.5.0 and what will be left
> for 3.6.0.
>
>  Prior to the new work, environments could be specified statically,
> dynamically or by default in the following three ways:
>
>  Static environments could be explicitly set as sections in puppet.conf,
> where the section name was the environment name and certain settings in
> that section would take priority over main, run mode or application default
> settings if puppet's main environment setting had been set to match, yet in
> turn be over ridden by command line settings.  The settings which have an
> effect within a static environment section are 'modulepath', 'manifest',
> 'templatedir', and 'config_version'.
>
>  Dynamic environments could be set by including $environment for
> interpolation in these key settings, for instance in the [main]
> 'modulepath' and 'manifest' settings.
>
>  And the default case is simply the default 'environment' (production)
> and the default 'modulepath' and 'manifest' settings.
>
>  Starting in Puppet 3.5.0 we are adding a new way of specifying
> environments which allows both for explicit enumeration of existing
> environments and dynamic addition of environments without adjusting the
> master configuration.  In this system each environment will simply be a
> directory with a specific structure located in a given path.  Hence we are
> calling them directory environments for now to distinguish them from their
> legacy kin.
>
>  The new system relies on a new setting 'environmentpath' in puppet.conf.
>  The 'environmentpath' may be set to one or more directories that will be
> searched for environment directories.  Its default is
> "$confdir/environments".
>
>  Each directory in the path may contain a number of subdirectories, one
> for each environment, where the name of the subdirectory is the name of the
> environment (valid environment names match the regular expression /\w+/).
>  Inside each environment's directory there are two more directories:
> `modules` for environment specific modules and `manifests` for the
> environment's manifests (this is where `site.pp` would be placed).
>
>    environments
>    |- my_env
>    |   |- modules
>    |   |   \- stdlib
>    |   \- manifests
>    |       \- site.pp
>    ...
>
>  If your 'environmentpath' setting contains multiple directories, then an
> environment will be matched from the first path directory it can be located
> in.  So environments found earlier in the path will shadow environments
> that are located later in the path.
>
>  In addition, there is a new setting 'basemodulepath' which is intended
> to provide a path to global modules available across all environments.  It
> has the same defaults as the current [main] 'modulepath' setting
> "$confdir/modules:/usr/share/puppet/modules", and 'modulepath' now defaults
> to "$basemodulepath".
>
>  This setting is appended to each directory environment's modulepath.  So
> for the above 'my_env' example, its modulepath would be
> "$confdir/environments/my_env/modules:$basemodulepath".
>
>  In 3.5.0, the 'basemodulepath' setting can be interpolated into other
> legacy environments as well.
>
>  The new directory environments will be functional as described above,
> but not feature complete in 3.5.0.  The plan is to finish them in 3.6.0,
> and deprecate static, dynamic and the default environment settings, which
> will then be removed in 4.0.
>
>  The main directory environment feature scheduled to be added in 3.6.0 is
> to allow for a per environment configuration file that can customize
> modulepath and manifest directory settings within each directory
> environment.  This would be in the form of an environment.conf file,
> following the same format as puppet.conf.  In addition to setting
> 'modulepath' and 'manifest', 'config_version' could be set here as well.
>  This should give parity to the current static environment sections in
> puppet.conf. (https://jira.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-1596)
>
>  In 3.6.0, [main] 'modulepath', 'manifest', 'config_version' would be
> deprecated.  The default manifest would be found in
> "$confdir/environments/production/manifests/site.pp", and packaging would
> be modified to construct this base default environment.  Use of static
> environment sections and interpolating $environment within puppet.conf
> would be deprecated as well.
>
>  You can also enumerate the new directory environments via the v2.0 API
> endpoint (/v2.0/environments) that Andy and Dan worked on. (see
> https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/api/docs/http_environments.md)
> Command line enumeration of environments is targeted for 4.0.
>
>  The epic for the environment work is:
> https://jira.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-536
>
>  Please let me know if I made any mistakes about existing functionality,
> or you have any questions or suggestions for us with regards to the
> directory environments.
>
>  thanks,
> Josh P.
>
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