well if those are the reasons you didn’t like it on windows you won’t on OS X 
either. it’s flexibility is one of its strengths ad probably the only reason i 
am able to use it on OS X.  Good to hear its not just HSC, figured that 
couldn’t be the case. It would be good to have options. 
> On Apr 26, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Phil Muir <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> No it's not just an HSC solution.  It's about 90% Jaws scripting with HSC
> only used where necessary and even that's intograted with scripts.  Curious
> to know how you are finding Reaper in Mac land?  Never did get on with it in
> Windows.  Too geeky for me.  Also, wasn't personally that impressed with how
> it sounds.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: 26 April 2016 20:32
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
> 
> That object based editing you speak of Phill is already available and
> accessible in reaper. Its one of the reason i stopped using ProTools
> and switch to reaper as my Main DAW on OSX a couple years ago. Loved
> using Samplitude back in the day when i had some sight with zoomtext
> Curious to see waht you guys do with it. Hopefully its not just a HSC
> solution. I don't know how i feel about just using HSC as my interface
> to a DAW. That being said, at this point it would take alot to get me
> to use windows again so i am probably not the target audience lol.
> 
> On 4/26/16, Phil Muir <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ricky wrote: I take it Money is not the issue you like myself would spend
>> whatever it took to do an excellent job.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Phil replied: already spent quite a bit on this laptop, smile.  Put in a
>> Samsung solid-state Evo and 16GB of RAM.  Currently running the audio on
> an
>> external USB3 drive although long term will most likely move that to a
>> thunderbolt drive.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ricky wrote: I have a 2000 1215 inch and I have a 500 gig hard drive. I
>> took
>> that out and use a hybrid drive but they sell a solid-state for around
> $300
>> you could get a three or 4 TB to go in there. When I track I have an
>> external hard drive but I have used the internal with no plug-ins tracking
>> a
>> session and never crashed just with my hybrid hard drive. You can really
>> make that laptop a hot rod for three or 400 bucks run your Boot Camp, have
>> your ProTools and all that good stuff. This will help you make the
> decision
>> on how much you want to try the Apple platform. I would have a logic
>> installed as well because I believe you like to experiment as I do.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Phil replied: correct.  Am sure I will purchase Logic at some point.  In
>> the
>> mean time, just purchased the Samplitude Pro X2 Suite for use on the
>> Windows
>> platform.  There's a guy over here in the UK creating a very cool
>> accessibility solution for it.  We think we will probably be able to get
>> per
>> track spectral editing going which would be fantastic.  BTW, if any of you
>> on here use clip gain then using Samplitude is like that on steroids as
> you
>> can add any affect you like and it's all non destructive.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ricky wrote: The ProTools 12 and Mavericks are going to get along good
> with
>> the set up like I have described max out your RAM as well when you do this
>> upgrade.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Phil replied: well either on the Mac or Windows side it's all running
> suite
>> here.
>> 
>>  _____
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Ricky Prevatte
>> Sent: 26 April 2016 17:48
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I take it Money is not the issue you like myself would spend whatever it
>> took to do an excellent job. I have a 2000 1215 inch and I have a 500 gig
>> hard drive. I took that out and use a hybrid drive but they sell a
>> solid-state for around $300 you could get a three or 4 TB to go in there.
>> When I track I have an external hard drive but I have used the internal
>> with
>> no plug-ins tracking a session and never crashed just with my hybrid hard
>> drive. You can really make that laptop a hot rod for three or 400 bucks
> run
>> your Boot Camp, have your ProTools and all that good stuff. This will help
>> you make the decision on how much you want to try the Apple platform. I
>> would have a logic installed as well because I believe you like to
>> experiment as I do. The ProTools 12 and Mavericks are going to get along
>> good with the set up like I have described max out your RAM as well when
>> you
>> do this upgrade.
>> 
>> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Phil Muir <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> True.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  _____
>> 
>> 
>> From:  <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Martin
>> Sent: 26 April 2016 13:03
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The advantage of removing the DVD drive is so you can have two internal
>> Hard
>> drives.  this can come in handy when traveling as Pro tools usually
>> requires
>> you to record to an separate HD than your system drive and that way you
>> have
>> two drives internally and won't have to bring an external USB or etc
> drive.
>> Or just to have a separate OS on each drive.
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:15 AM, Phil Muir <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gord.  You don't need to remove the DVD drive.  You may need to fit a
>> larger
>> hard drive and build a Mac installer.  That's easy enough to do using
>> command line tools.  Just use the bootcamp manager to partition the disk
>> for
>> you.  Doing that here with my Samsung EVO 500GB drive in this mid 2012 15
>> inch MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  _____
>> 
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Kent
>> Sent: 26 April 2016 02:54
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>                                    I might give this serious fault.  My
>> macbook pro is 4 years old now.  If I ever get a newer mac, it will be a
>> tower system, not a laptop.  I could care less about the new features in
> el
>> capitan.  I would rather have pt working the way it should.  Maverick
>> solved
>> some of the accessibility problems with pro tools not reading certain
>> numeric values and the like.  And apple still hasn't made the midi studio
>> accessible.  If I removed the Dvd drive, I could put in a second HD and
> run
>> boot camp to switch between the os's if I wanted to.
>> 
>> Gord
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Ricky <mailto:[email protected]>  Prevatte
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:40 PM
>> 
>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>> Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am running ProTools 12 and Mavericks. I had problem with Yosemite and
> had
>> to roll back. All of that stuff works well with the latest version of
> logic
>> as well on those older operating systems. I am not going to upgrade myself
>> out of house and home I have thisDAW Running well I am going to keep it
>> that
>> way. I have a nice quick hard drive in the old laptop I have my CD drive I
>> have no interest in a newer Apple Computer.
>> 
>> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Gordon Kent <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>                                But don't I need to be running el capitan
>> to
>> run pro tools 12?  I really liked maverick the best, but I would think
>> yossemity would be as far back as you could go.
>> 
>> Gord
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Ricky <mailto:[email protected]>  Prevatte
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:14 PM
>> 
>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>> Subject: Re: my control surface dilemma, a real drag
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Gordon I believe if you took your laptop in and have it rolled back to
>> Mavericks or Yosemite your problem would be solved. If there is an issue
>> that you need the newer update I understand but it may be cheaper and I
>> know
>> there is no learning curve there. I use my Presonus studio live for my
>> console. It will not support El Capitan as well. I just bought a control
>> surface and mackie MCU pro may not support it as well. I have heard that
> it
>> did run with El Capitan.
>> I am not going to take that chance. But all those surface issues you
>> mentioned could be solved by abandoning El Capitan.
>> Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2016, at 8:57 PM, Gordon Kent <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>                        It's been quite a while since I've used pro tools.
>> Back when I was running pt 10 with the older os's mountain lion etc., I
> had
>> it working great with my alesis master control audio interface/control
>> surface.  Now alesis is no longer supporting it with el capitan.  I don't
>> think my m-audio project mix or the behringer bcf2000 will work either.
>> Are
>> we relegated to having to buy the Avid artist series surface?  Would that
>> be
>> good enough or do we really need to spring for the s3.
>> 
>> Gord
>> 
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