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>   1. Re: Redhat's Bind config tool (Tommy McNeely)
>   2. RE: Kylix, PostGreSql, MySql, Java 2, and User Interfaces (Paul Watkins)
>   3. Re: Quake(1) on RH8 (dTd)
>   4. Can up2date revert to a previous package version? (Michael St. Laurent)
>   5. Re: Can up2date revert to a previous package version? (Mark C)
>   6. Re: Can up2date revert to a previous package version? (Jay Turner)
>   7. Re: Yes..., I can destroy your system! (Guy Fraser)
>   8. Re: Samba & Nautilus (antonio montagnani)
>   9. Linux Software Pointers (John BouAntoun)
>  10. Re: What's This?? (Oisin C. Feeley)
>  11. Re: Linux Software Pointers (Brent Fox)
>  12. Re: Can't make NTP work (Stephen Carville)
>  13. Error message. (G. Barker)
>  14. Re: Minimum Install (Rocky)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:06:47 -0700
>From: Tommy McNeely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Redhat's Bind config tool
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>I agree with the whitespace issue... but you dont need a FQDN in the zone 
>file if the origin is set correctly?? none of mine have the FQDN.. only 
>hostnames .. ofcourse after a bad experience with bind-config I use vim as 
>my "config tool" :)
>
>Tommy
>
>--On Saturday, January 18, 2003 03:59:45 PM -0800 Kevin Brouelette 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I haven't seen this on this list since I've been here a week or so,
>> I've been using testing redhats bind-config tool and it has caused me a
>> nervous
>> breakdown until today.  When I use it to setup DNS files on a
>> fresh installed machine, the zone files look fine yet don't work.
>> I've found a few things by trial and error to share to see if others
>> have discovered the same.
>>
>> After using the tool to create a couple of zones:
>>
>> 1st]   /etc/named.conf  The tool edits and saves a
>> variety of empty lines, white spaces at the trailing end of most of
>> the lines in the file, and if I open it with 'vi' in a gui terminal,
>> I see RED boxes scattered all over the place [even over letters in
>> comments].
>>
>> So the first thing I do is clean up all the RED boxes, trailing 'white
>> spaces'
>> and excessive blank lines.
>>
>> 2nd] When the tool creates a zonefile, [for example kbtest.com.zone] it
>> writes record as follows:
>>
>> www   IN  A   123.234.345.456
>>
>>
>> This will fail.  -But- if I change it to:
>>
>> www.kbtest.com.   IN  A   123.234.345.456
>>
>> along with the above fix to /etc/named.conf and restart named,
>> the zones resolve and all is good.
>>
>> Comments welcome
>>
>> Kevin B
>>
>>
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>Message: 2
>From: Paul Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:38:55 -0700 (MST)
>Subject: RE: Kylix, PostGreSql, MySql, Java 2, and User Interfaces
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>I've been using mysql on a commercial web site with  in excess of
>1,000,000 hits per month and had no security issues becuse phpMyAdmin is
>not available to end users.
>
>In my opinion the only one who should use phpMyAdmin is a database
>administrator or other authorized administrator.  Users have no access to
>phpMyAdmin.
>
>
>> Has not phpMyadmin,webmin,linuxconf-web; basically all the web based
>> administrative interfaces have tons of security holes?
>>
>> My basic fear of getting exploited via these interfaces keeps me from
>> implementing them.
>>
>>
>>> --Luke
>>> --Computer Science Sysadmin, MSU Bozeman
>>> --admin(AT)cs.montana.edu 994-3931
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Watkins
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:41 AM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: Kylix, PostGreSql, MySql, Java 2, and User Interfaces
>>>
>>> How about  phpMyAdmin 2.3.0 -- this is a great interface to MySQL.
>>>
>>> http://www.phpmyadmin.net/
>>>
>>> PRW
>>>
>>>
>>> >    I have several database products in mind that I would like to
>>> > build.  I have seen that MySQL and PostGRESQL are included with Red
>>> Hat 8.  From what I am reading, neither has a user-friendly
>>> interface and therefore someone needs to program an interface for
>>> them.  I have been looking for information about how to build
>>> interfaces for them, but I am not sure I have learned much.  Some
>>> recommendations are for Java, others for C.  In Windows, I used
>>> either Access and a little Visual Foxpro or Visual Basic.  What
>>> recommendations do you have?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >    At the bookstore this evening I ran across a book on Kylix.  I
>>> > just looked it up on the internet and discovered it is a RAD tool
>>> for Linux by Boreland.  The book came with a copy of Open Kylix.  I
>>> looked on the Boreland website and it is a version for open source.
>>> It has an Evaluation version, but they don't seem to sell it.  Can
>>> someone tell me if that is a free version by chance, or is it a
>>> timeware product that dies if you don't pay for it after a few days?
>>>  I will probably download it when I get Linux up again and look it
>>> over, but in the meantime, I think I got lost somewhere and went
>>> around in circles on Boreland's website.  What can you folk tell me
>>> about it?
>>> >
>>> > Thank you
>>> >
>>> > Buck
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:18:19 -0500 (EST)
>From: dTd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Quake(1) on RH8
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On 21 Jan 2003, Donald G Wilson Jr wrote:
>
>> I know its an old game but... has anyone here gotten quake to run on RH
>> 8. I've never installed these syle games on Linux and frankly am afraid
>> of fessing up my install. I read the how-to, and several sites, but all
>> are outdated and leave me wondering if i can/should do it on my sys.
>>
>> (RH8 w/ AMD XP2100+, GeForce4 mx420, nvidia drivers.)
>>
>> no rtfm style replys please, though if someone says they did it by the
>> how - to thats fine, i was just scared of changing so many files via out
>> dated information.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> dw
>Quake 1, your best bet if you have the original cd is quakeforge, this is
>a complete port of quake1 for linux with 3d excelerated graphics and is
>easily installed from sourc, quake2, the best method is to download the
>quake2 installer from icculus.org, this is another full linux port which
>will install and setup quake2 from the original cd, quake3, with either
>the windows or linux cd version you should download the latest linux patch
>from
>ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com//idstuff/quake3/linux/linuxq3apoint-1.32b.x86.run
>and run it, then copy the pack files from the cd or a windows install to
>/usr/local/games/quake3/baseq3. Have fun :)
>
>/dTd
>Perl 6 will give you the big knob. - Larry Wall
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>Message: 4
>From: "Michael St. Laurent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Can up2date revert to a previous package version?
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:54:24 -0800
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Is there a way to make up2date revert to an older kernel package?
>
>-- 
>Michael St. Laurent
>Hartwell Corporation
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>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:16:00 +0000
>From: Mark C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Can up2date revert to a previous package version?
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Michael St. Laurent wrote:
>> Is there a way to make up2date revert to an older kernel package?
>
>yes and no, you could try rpm -ivh kernel-2.4-something.i686.rpm
>
>or there is an option in up2date, to enable rollback, basically it makes 
>an rpm of youre old files/program and allows you to reinstall it.
>
>Check top the options in up2date.
>
>Mark
>
>
>-- 
>To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism;
>to steal from many is research.
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>Message: 6
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:36:03 -0500
>From: Jay Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Can up2date revert to a previous package version?
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 11:54:24AM -0800, Michael St. Laurent wrote:
>> Is there a way to make up2date revert to an older kernel package?
>
>No, but if you installed the kernel using up2date, then it should have done
>an "installation" as opposed to an "upgrade" which means that your old
>kernel should still be there.  Run "rpm -q kernel" to see which kernels are
>installed on your system.
>
>- jkt
>-- 
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>      No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right;
>      a single experiment can prove me wrong.   -- Albert Einstein 
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>Message: 7
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:18:17 -0700
>From: Guy Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Organization: J I Reasearch
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Yes..., I can destroy your system!
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Hi
>
>Yes that is correct, but most new users do not know how to use vi or most 
>alternate console text editors.
>
>I usualy alias pico to "pico -w" then export EDITOR as pico, because I prefer 
>it for quick editing. I use vi for bulk editing. Since most new users probably 
>have not installed pine, what I do probably wouldn't have helped. When I run 
>visudo after I have made these changes visudo uses 'pico -w' to do the editing 
>rather than vi.
>
>NOTE: Pico's "-w" option turns off automatic wraping which can be a pain when 
>editing config files.
>
>Using a GUI text editor to copy/modify one of the examples is fairly straight 
>forward, as I intended my suggestion to be.
>
>Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
>> On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 19:06, Guy Fraser wrote:
>> 
>>>EXPANDED:
>>>When running as root, edit "/etc/sudoers" and grant yourself privledge to 
>>>certain commands or all commands. Then when running as a regular user you can 
>>>execute the enabled commands like this :
>>>sudo /sbin/ifconfig
>> 
>> 
>> Enhanced editing: visudo
>> That command will edit /etc/sudoers AND check for syntax on exit. Very
>> helpful.
>> 
>> Rui
>> 
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>Message: 8
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:37:09 +0100
>From: antonio montagnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Samba & Nautilus
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Iain Buchanan wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 23:42, antonio montagnani wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>If I digit smb: in the command line I get the message:
>>>
>>>Nautilus can't display smb:///
>>>
>>>But if I digit smb://192.168.0.40 I get shares displayed in Nautilus window.
>>>
>>>Any suggestion to a newbie of Samba???
>>>    
>>>
>>I had a very similar problem, all forms of smb: or smb:/// or whatever
>>resulted in a similar error message (whereas the full name or ip address
>>worked, as in your example).  So I analysed my iptables logs and found
>>that I wasn't quite accepting all the correct ports.  I opened some more
>>and it worked.  So check your firewall.
>>  
>>
>Tnx Iain.
>
>I am really a newbie...I should have figured that way, as from other 
>machines not behind firewall smb:  worked.
>I have to check which ports are to be opened, but this is another job of 
>mine.
>
>Tnx again
>
>Antonio
>
>
>
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>Message: 9
>Subject: Linux Software Pointers
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:32:53 +1100
>From: "John BouAntoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Hi guys,
>
>I'm still trying to push Linux acceptance in my office, and have been able to sell my 
>boss on the idea of a free messaging server running inside the copmany VPN.
>
>This server is for use by the IT team when we are working from home, or even in 
>different parts of the office.
>
>I'm thinking of getting them to install a RH8 desktop, that acts as this messaging 
>server so I can expose them to the desktop merits of Linux (evolution, mozilla, 
>openoffice e.t.c.).
>
>So my question is what are some good free (beer and/or speach) messaging servers that 
>I can setup on this linux box?
>
>I was thinking to use the irc protocol, because it enables easy group conference, but 
>I've been hearing things about jabba (spelling?) and other open messaging protocols. 
>The server product would have reasonably mature and stable (though most mature linux 
>server software tends to be much more stable than the windows equivalent in my 
>experience).
>
>Any pointer or URLs would be appreciated.
>
>John
>
>
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:28:12 -0800 (PST)
>From: "Oisin C. Feeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Psyche List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: What's This??
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Gregory Malsack wrote:
>
>>Can anyone tell me what might me happening here and how I can stop it?
>>
>>Thanks in advance...
>>Greg
><snip insanely long log>
>Hi Greg,
>would you mind not posting to all three lists (seawolf, enigma, psyche) 
>simultaneously?  I noticed you did this with your last question also.  
>Many people are subscribed to all of them and doing this is close to 
>spamming the lists.
>
>Thanks, hope you get an answer to your question.
>
>Oisin Feeley
>
>
>
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>Message: 11
>Subject: Re: Linux Software Pointers
>From: Brent Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Organization: 
>Date: 22 Jan 2003 16:57:41 -0500
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 16:32, John BouAntoun wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I'm still trying to push Linux acceptance in my office, and have been able to sell 
>my boss on the idea of a free messaging server running inside the copmany VPN.
>> 
>> This server is for use by the IT team when we are working from home, or even in 
>different parts of the office.
>> 
>> I'm thinking of getting them to install a RH8 desktop, that acts as this messaging 
>server so I can expose them to the desktop merits of Linux (evolution, mozilla, 
>openoffice e.t.c.).
>> 
>> So my question is what are some good free (beer and/or speach) messaging servers 
>that I can setup on this linux box?
>> 
>> I was thinking to use the irc protocol, because it enables easy group conference, 
>but I've been hearing things about jabba (spelling?) and other open messaging 
>protocols. The server product would have reasonably mature and stable (though most 
>mature linux server software tends to be much more stable than the windows equivalent 
>in my experience).
>> 
>> Any pointer or URLs would be appreciated.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>
>I don't have a ton of experience with Jabber, but I did set up a server
>at home once just for fun.  Check out www.jabber.org for more
>information.
>
>Of course, IRC is good too.
>
>Cheers,
>  Brent
>
>
>
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>Message: 12
>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:09:31 -0800 (PST)
>From: Stephen Carville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Can't make NTP work
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Looks like the server is just not responding to your request.  Try:
>
>tick.ucla.edu
>time.berkeley.netdot.net
>ntp2.sf-bay.org
>ntp.ucsd.edu
>
>I know these servers work.
>
>Also post your ntp.conf file.
>
>I have some notes I made on ntp setup at:
>
>http://heronforge.net/redhat/node12.html
>
>On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Neil Bird wrote:
>
>- 
>-    I've been struggling to make NTP actually set my clock on 8.0 (first
>- time I've used it).  I've done a whole ream of different things after
>- asking for help on comp.protocols.time.ntp, but no joy.
>- 
>-    Even simplistically, with the RH-shipped ntp.conf, in the RH date
>- config. utility, when I try to tick the 'NTP' box reports that it can't
>- get a reply and maybe my firewall needds checking - but I tried it with
>- the firewall wide-open for the host I listed (and double checked - no
>- logged dropped packets, and ethereal shows NTP UDP stuff coming in OK).
>- 
>-    I also get the following (same host) out of ntpdate (but I couldn't
>- say for certain what state the ntp.conf was in at the time, so that may
>- have affected this test):
>- 
>- 
>- $ sudo ntpdate -d ntp.cis.strath.ac.uk
>- 22 Jan 06:20:29 ntpdate[2320]: ntpdate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 31 18:27:31
>- EDT 2002 (1)
>- transmit(130.159.196.118)
>- transmit(130.159.196.118)
>- transmit(130.159.196.118)
>- receive(130.159.196.118)
>- receive: pkt.org and peer.xmt differ
>- transmit(130.159.196.118)
>- transmit(130.159.196.118)
>- 130.159.196.118: Server dropped: no data
>- server 130.159.196.118, port 123
>- stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
>- refid [0.0.0.0], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
>- transmitted 4, in filter 4
>- reference time:    00000000.00000000  Thu, Feb  7 2036  6:28:16.000
>- originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000  Thu, Feb  7 2036 6:28:16.000
>- transmit timestamp:  c1d8b6b0.b6e0f3cb  Wed, Jan 22 2003 6:20:32.714
>- filter delay:  0.00000  0.00000  0.00000  0.00000
>-           0.00000  0.00000  0.00000  0.00000
>- filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
>-           0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
>- delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
>- offset 0.000000
>- 
>- 22 Jan 06:20:33 ntpdate[2320]: no server suitable for synchronization found
>- 
>- 
>-    Any & all help appreciated!  My next course of action is stepping
>- through the source ...
>- 
>- 
>
>-- 
>-- Stephen Carville http://www.heronforge.net/~stephen/gnupgkey.txt
>==============================================================
>Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only of the 
>front sight.
>==============================================================
>
>
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>Message: 13
>From: "G. Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: RedHat 8 (Psyche) List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Error message.
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:17:03 +1300
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Hi all.
>
>As a newbie, I've got a problem in installing a RPM file. I click on the file 
>in the Konqueror file manager, but it won't install, I get the message;
>
>Could Not Open Package
>
>The file "/root/downloads/linux/ocr/Clara" could not be read.  Make sure that 
>you have the proper permissions on it
>
>I checked the permissions under properties, but I don't see anything amiss! 
>This used to work OK in Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla).
>
>It does install manually in the Terminal, but none of the RPM files that I've 
>got will install from the file manager.
>-- 
>
>Regards, George
>Packet ZL4CW@ZL4GQ.#95.NZL.OC
>Sent by KMail - Red Hat 8.0 - Linux
>
>
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>Message: 14
>Subject: Re: Minimum Install
>From: Rocky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Psyche List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Organization: 
>Date: 22 Jan 2003 18:58:08 -0500
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 23:03, HakanTerzioglu wrote:
>> If you select Custom Installation , and when the package selection screen
>> appears at he very end of it , there is  Minimal installation option , it=
> is
>> right below Everything option.
>> this is true only for Psyche, ( i did not have  look at Phoebe)
>
>Thanks! I had not noticed that before!
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>Rocky <rlh-list at nmrg.net>
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