Thanks,

I think I understand what you mean now.

In theory both of the metrics that I’m using to would work just without any
manipulation, for example ltmPoolMbrStatusAvailState will return everything
I care about and all the labels I need to use to match it’s just once I
manipulate the values that it stops showing me everything.

So untested but:

‘ltmPoolMbrStatusAvailState or on (instance,ltmPoolMbrStatusNodeName,
ltmPoolMbrStatusPoolName,ltmPoolMbrStatusPort) metricfromrecordingrule * 0’

Then the recording rule would be for the initial join:

‘ltmPoolMbrStatusAvailState * on(instance,ltmPoolMbrStatusNodeName,
ltmPoolMbrStatusPoolName,ltmPoolMbrStatusPort)
group_right(ltmPoolMbrStatusAvailState)
ltmPoolMbrStatusEnabledState)‘

I imagine putting that above query where ‘ metricfromrecordingrule’ is in
the main query will cause other issues, so am best to use a recording rule
to get that data. That also allows me to use metricfromrecordingrule to do
my checking for:

- enabled but unavailable
- disabled but available
- disabled and unavailable

And then I can do my subtraction based on that.

Sorry I’m new to more advanced querying. Is that looking along the right
lines?


On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 at 17:00, Brian Candler <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 7 March 2023 at 16:47:34 UTC Nick Carlton wrote:
>
> I suppose that if there are for example no nodes that are enabled but not
> available, would Prometheus actually know the pools that don’t match this
> because they theory they would not be returned at all  in the query,
> nevermind the count by.
>
>
> That's what I mean by having a stable metric, one which is always present,
> that you can combine with "or" or "unless".
>
> If you just care about the 'instance' label, then the "up" metric can
> perform this purpose, which is created by Prometheus for every target it
> attempts to scrape.  This allows you to alert on the *absence* of a
> particular metric from any target, since you know which targets are being
> scraped:
> https://www.robustperception.io/absent-alerting-for-scraped-metrics/
>
> In your case, you need to identify a particular metric which is always
> present for each load balancer pool (or whatever it is you're monitoring)
> regardless of its state.
>
> But no, sorry, I am not going to write this for you :-)  It would involve
> digging down too far into the details of these F5 metrics than I care to.
> Good luck!
>
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