They love to call us evil until they need our foreign aid. --- On Thu, 7/29/10, Ricardo Aráoz <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Ricardo Aráoz <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OT] More wikileaks > To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010, 2:34 PM > On 29/07/2010 02:13 p.m., Leland > Jackson wrote: > > On 07/29/2010 11:25 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Nicholas > Geti<[email protected]> > >> > >> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>> You are ignoring the fact that > early on some of the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>> men were carrying AKs > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>> and RPGs. That is what started the > whole thing. The > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>> reporters happened to > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>> be > >>>>>> in the same area. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >> Al Qaeda's intelligence reports informed that > early on there were WMD's > >> aimed at the middle east inside the twin towers. > >> The workers, police and firemen that died there > happened to be in the > >> same area. > >> > >> Not so nice when your own people are so casually > dismissed. Isn't it? > >> > >> > > The video you posted disturbed me. The attack by > the gunner from the > > Apache helicopter seemed to lack justification. > Those on board the > > helicopters were miles away, invisible to their > targets. > > > > From what I have gather on the > internet, some Apache helicopters are > > designed to fly with low noise and can engage target > from as far away as > > 2 miles. This make the helicopters invisible to > the targets, not so > > much from the low noise emitted, but because the > helicopter cannot be > > seen or near at those distances. The targets > were not even aware of the > > helicopters, much less a danger to the military aboard > them. > > > > I would not think it uncommon to be heavily armed when > moving about in a > > country like Iraq, because of the exposure to so many > risk. During the > > time period covered by the video an ordinany Iraqi, > (eg not a terrorist, > > enemy combatant or even a simpathiser), could easily > become a casualty > > from sleuth attack by helicopters, ground operations > from the many > > military operation taking place daily, from death > squad operations from > > many different interests, particular religious > interest, from the many > > tentacles of their own government including military, > police, black > > opts, etc. If I were in such an environment, I > would not go out unless > > armed to the teeth. > > > > I regret that this video is on the internet, as are so > many others like > > it. It has made the American Soldier the new > iconic poster representing > > arrogance, curtly, torture, murder, unprovoked > aggression, and all the > > other horror connotations previous associated with the > Nazi soldier. > > > > Agree with you on most points, but we disagree in a couple > of places. > i) from what I see in the video there was only one person > allegedly > armed, the soldier said it was an rpg, the text says it's a > camera from > a Reuters reporter. I can not tell for certain, but if it > was really an > RPG then there would be no Reuters journalists there. Does > not sound likely. > ii) The video has not "made" the US soldier an iconic > poster of evil. > The US soldier's *actions* have made them that. > > > _______________________________________________ > Post Messages to: [email protected] > Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox > This message: > http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are > the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or > medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for > those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious. > _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
