The AMD 6100 series G34 x8 and x12 have only started shipping over the 
last 30 to 60 days, so its not widely available yet.  Also, there are 
only a few dual socket motherboard available for it coming from Tyan 
$542.35, ASUS $459.99 and Supermicro $445.00.  To get a G34 dual socket 
motherboard assemble today would cost you something like:

#----------------------
Motherboard = $500.00
AMD Opteron x12 6174  $1,250.00 x 2 = $2,500.00
4 gigs memory kit at 2gig x 2 = $140.00
Total would run around $3,140.00, before shipping, assembly, and testing.

#------------------------

I don't yet know how the product will be priced when the OEM begin 
releasing their products, so a lot will depend on that.


  If it's going into a new box, as opposed to an upgrade to a existing 
box, you would need to add the expense for the computer case, power 
supply, disk drives, keyboard, mouse, video card, video display, and any 
other special items you might need.  Prices for these items can vary 
considerable depending on what you're looking for in the way of 
performance, reliability, brand name, etc.  I'll let you do the math.  LOL

The AMD Opteron x8 6136 runs from $750.00 to $900.00 each.

If I were you, I would wait and see if thing come down, after the the 
dust form the initial release settles.  LOL

http://www.provantage.com/amd-os6174wktcego~7AAMD2EC.htm


Regards,

LelandJ









On 05/13/2010 01:17 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
> Hey there Leland,
>
> Thanks for all your feedback on this. I Broke this thread off into a
> different thread - as I figured I didn't want to diverge much more on
> the original Server Spec's request - as the thread already diverted into
> musical territories. Funny how that happens!      :-)
>
> So - you are saying - its cheaper for me to buy a motherboard and a
> SINGLE 12-core processor? OR, are you saying - even the 12-core is VERY
> pricey. I haven't looked for specific pricing on it yet. My initial
> thoughts were trying to build one based upon 2 of the HexaCore AMD
> CPU's. And, I suspect that buying a dual CPU HexaCore mobo w/2 chips -
> is probably cheaper than a single 12-Core chip and mobo! Am I right?
>    

The AMD 6100 series 8 core and 12 core and G34 socket are pretty new.  I 
don't know if newegg or mwave carry them yet, so I'm not sure of the 
pricing.  I don't think Mwave is carrying any G34 socket mb and newegg 
is has two listed, but they are out of stock.  There are only about .  yt=
> Although - to be honest - I won't be building a new PC any time too
> soon. Being that summer is around the bend - and I got my big CG
> conference to attend in LA - I'm gonna have to save up for that. But,
> who knows...
>
> L8r,
> -K-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA
> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:27 PM
>
> Whoops, some of the links aren't working:
>
> Here the power supply:
>
> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/deepsearch_v3.asp?scriteria=Antec+TP+650&ALL=
> y&TP=
>
> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Antec+TP-650&oe=utf-8&rls=org.m
> ozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=145939649687405
> 4045&ei=oynrS7vaBamIlAecqdDeDw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&
> resnum=3&ved=0CDIQ8wIwAg#ps-sellers
>
> I brought the case and power supply as a bundle, so the power supply
> arrived already installed in the case.  I just popped the already
> assembled MB in the case, installed the drives, video card, hooked up
> all the cables, and booted her right up.
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/23nb4hk
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>
>
> On 05/12/2010 05:04 PM, Leland Jackson wrote:
>
>    
>> The new AMD 6100 series cpus running in the G34 sockets are expensive.
>> They should come down in price in time.
>>
>> You may not need a dual socket motherboard for your workstation.  This
>> review will give you some idea of where the AMD 6100 series cpu
>>      
> shines:
>    
>>
>>      
> http://www.anandtech.com/show/2978/amd-s-12-core-magny-cours-opteron-617
> 4-vs-intel-s-6-core-xeon/5
>    
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/26cqgoq
>>
>> I built a workstation about a year ago using mwave as follows:
>>
>> #------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> 1)       BA31314 -BA26037 -BA26098 -TEST5             1
>>     ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX ATX motherboard
>> 2xPCI-E(x16)/2xPCI-E(x8)/2xPCI/4xDDR3/integrated VGA/SATA2
>>      
> Raid/Lan(gb)
>    
>> (Retail)PHENOM II X4 810 2.6G; KINGSTON 4GB KIT KHX13000AD3LLK2/4G;
>>      
> FREE
>    
>> ASSEMBLE/TEST              $401.47             $401.47
>>
>> I like Mwave because they ship the motherboard, cpu, cpu fan and
>>      
> memory
>    
>> already assembled and tested to be sure the motherboard will post.
>>      
> The
>    
>> M4A78-T-E motherboard has been rock solid for me.  It's a quality
>>      
> board
>    
>> with quality components, including the good capacitors that last 40 or
>> 50 years.
>>
>>
>>      
> https://www.mwave.com/mwave/deepsearch_v3.asp?scriteria=ASUS+M4A78T+E&AL
> L=y&TP=
>    
>> or
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/22mpfa4
>> #-----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> 2)
>>                5571462           1           Discontinued on
>>      
> 11/20---PNY
>    
>> XLR8 GeForce 9800 GT EE ("Energy Efficiency") 512MB GDDR3 pci-e 2.0x16
>> hdcp ready SLI supported(#VCG98GTEE5XEB)(retail)           $106.99
>>        $106.99
>>
>> The video is acceptable for what I do.
>>
>> #--------------------------------------------------
>> 3)
>>                BA23818 - -BA35118 -TEST2           1           ANTEC
>>      
> P182
>    
>> (black) ATX tower case no power supply 4x5.25" 1x3.5" 6x3.5"(hidden)
>> w/front i/o connectors&   120mm case fan x 2
>> Bundle Options:
>>              $237.98           $237.98
>>
>> The Antec P183 case makes it a breeze to upgrade the system, replace
>> parts, or otherwise work on the system.
>>
>>
>>      
> https://www.mwave.com/mwave/deepsearch_v3.asp?scriteria=Antec+P183+Black
> +Aluminum&ALL=y&TP=
>    
>> or
>>
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2dtz34b
>>
>> The Antec power supply is also top notch:
>>
>> https://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch_v3.asp?
>>
>> #----------------------------------------------
>>
>>                AA74518 -BA20504 -           2           WESTERN DIGITAL
>> WD3202ABYS RE3 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" internal
>>      
> hard
>    
>> drive (Bare Drive) (OEM)=0.5m UV-BLUE SATA CABLE= NO POWER CORDS ADDED
>>              $70.40           $140.80
>>
>> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SKUSearch_v3.asp?
>>
>> http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=490
>>
>> The WD RE3, (eg 3rd generation), drives are enterprise class.  You pay
>>      
> a
>    
>> little more, but they are worth it.  I went with a couple of 320 gig
>> drives to run my Fedora 11 OS.  I wanted to keep the capacity down to
>>      
> a
>    
>> reasonable level, so I could make a mirrow image of the OS to the
>>      
> second
>    
>> drive without it taking forever.  LOL.  I use a WD 750 gig usb drive
>>      
> and
>    
>> a couple of maxtor 200 gig drives for other thing.
>>
>> #--------------------------------------------
>>
>> I built the system to give me good performance and to be problem free.
>>
>>                FRDISC           1           Google Discount
>> ($10.00)           ($10.00)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for choosing     Sub-Total     $877.24
>> Shipping&   Handling Fee     $35.04
>> Sales Tax (CA only)     $0.00
>> Order Total     912.28
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>>
>> On 05/12/2010 03:39 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> Hey Leland,
>>>
>>> Is that for Real? And 8 and 12 Core CPU from AMD? I'm kinda bad about
>>> keeping up on some of the latest HW. Although, I thought it was only
>>> recently that AMD had come up with a 6-core (HexaCore) CPU. So - I am
>>> shocked to hear of an 8 and a 12 core CPU.
>>>
>>> I used to be big on AMD. However, they weren't keeping up - and Intel
>>> came out with a Quad-Core 1st. And, it seemed that AMD was going to
>>>        
> take
>    
>>> longer to come out with one. So - I built my last workstation based
>>>        
> upon
>    
>>> the Intel QuadCore (I think it's a Q6600). However, my prior 2
>>> workstations were both AMD CPU based which I built.
>>>
>>> I would just LOVE to build myself a new workstation - based upon a 2
>>>        
> CPU
>    
>>> motherboard - with 2 HexaCores. I do 3D graphics - when I am not
>>>        
> doing
>    
>>> VFP (actually working on a possible 3D CG movie deal right now). And,
>>>        
> I
>    
>>> am also planning to have the main HD of my next system be a SSD type
>>> unit. That - and a serious Video card and lots of RAM should make the
>>> system SCREAM!
>>>
>>> I also saw your other posting - with the Dual CPU motherboard. But, I
>>> saw it was Server specific. I'm wondering if I can find a dual CPU
>>>        
> based
>    
>>> mo-bo on NewEgg that isn't SO pricey.
>>>
>>> L8r,
>>> -K-
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>>        
> [mailto:[email protected]]
>    
>>> On Behalf Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:15 AM
>>>
>>> On 05/12/2010 04:22 AM, Allen wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Hi Foxgang
>>>> I have been asked to spec a server...
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> I like the AMD cpu.  Opteron is AMD's server cpu.  AMD has a new 8
>>>        
> core
>    
>>> and 12 core Opteron cpu, and with a motherboard that supports
>>>        
> multiple
>    
>>> AMD 8 or 12 core Opterons, (eg dual or quad socketed motherboards),
>>>        
> you
>    
>>> can really build a server.   Here are a few links to get you
>>>        
> thinking:
>    
>>> http://www.siliconmechanics.com/c1246/rack-server-products.php
>>> http://www.newegg.com/store/SubCategory.aspx?Subcategory=302
>>> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813151149
>>> http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=90603
>>>
>>>        
> http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/04/08/asus-launches-dual-sock
>    
>>> et-amd-g34-motherboa/1
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> LelandJ
>>>        
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