Publius Maximus wrote: > Ricardo: > > >> Actually a TRUE cristian when offered porn for a bible will probably say >> "Oh, take the bible for free, as a present" >> > > Wow, I agree with you again. This is some kind of record, what? two in a row! >
Honestly, I'm nauseated. > Even beyond that, a discerning Christian would at least attempt to > befriend the person, in order to understand the origin of the Enemy's > foot-hold in their life. > There you go again with you manichaean way of seeing the world (not only in politics but now in religion)! There is no enemy, IT'S YOU and only you. Stop projecting! > >> So what I really say is you might as well enjoy it, seeing that your >> heart really wants it. >> > > Bzzzt. Wrong answer. Your heart will ALWAYS want it, so long as you > live in the flesh, instead of the spirit. > And double BZZZT to you pal! After a time, as you grow up and mature, porn stops being such a temptation. When you grow and learn to see you start seeing the actors faces and their eyes, and everything surrounding them, and you realize it's a really sad thing, a sordid thing, and then your interest in watching porn disappears. Now having a menage a trois! That's the real thing man! > The only way out is to decide to turn against it and call on God to do > the rest. You have to be reborn in your spirit to want what the flesh > does not want. > I am spiritflesh, both. If my tooth aches my spirit is affected by it. If my daughter dies, my spirit is affected by it. That is because I am ONE. To divide a person between spirit and flesh is schizophrenia. Actually the division can be assimilated to that between neck and torso, THERE IS REALLY NO DIVISION, we just divide it so as to classify, study and specialize, but there is no real division. Same thing goes up with spirit/flesh. I am an individual (I let it to you to check on the etymology of the word, it will enlighten you). >> And after you've seen it and got it out of your >> system, >> > > Bzzzt. Wrong again. Far from 'getting it out of your system,' you are > in fact giving even more right to the demonic to indwell and compel > you. > Bzzzt to you. You are a theoretician here. I'm talking of facts, of personal experience (look up a few paragraphs). Your theories may sound fine, and will earn you praise in a theological meeting, but reality has a mind of it's own and insists on proving you wrong. Maybe it's your god telling you you are bonkers? >> start meditating on who are you and why do you need such a >> pantomime of true life. When you are really changed you'll not need to >> repress anything, and god will know your heart is true. >> > > I guess the disagreement here is whether and how you change. It is not > possible of your own strength, but an act of faith that IF you turn > your mind against it, your spirit will revive and with the help of > God's spirit, clean your heart up and set it right. "For apart from > me, you can do nothing." > Hum... let's see here. Change does not come from strength, yours or god's, but from enlightenment. You suddenly see things in a new light. For example, Petey here didn't "force" himself to leave dolls aside, he just woke one day and dolls were not interesting any more, so he started dating men. Now this "seeing things in a new light" may come from your own growth, your own meditation, or from god's will. But then god granted free will, and that includes the whole of your spirit, the direction and timing of your changes are included in that package. Ergo, it MUST come from you and not from god. > >> I seem to >> remember there was this guy who had all the fun in the world, women, >> parties, orgies, and then he had a change of heart and became a saint. >> > > That's how it usually works. But that 'change of heart' started with a > change of mind (metanoia) and a cry to God from deep in the will to > take control of the situation his heart was in. Only God can make a > man a new creation in the manner you describe. > Not really. I wish I could remember whom am I referring to, but according to what has being transmitted there was no cry to god to take control, he just had a change of heart, he looked at his doings and was estranged from them, so he followed his heart. Was it Aquino, Asis? Can't remember. >> When I practiced karate they used to tell us the belt >> colour was meant to reflect your knowledge, but your knowledge would not >> reflect the colour of your belt. >> > > I used to do martial arts, once upon a blue moon, and I was pretty > good at it. Knocked the crap out of people in tournaments and > everything. > Practicing Muay Thai right now, like it a lot. > It is, however, totally saturated with the demonic > ROTFLMAO > Notice in karate, and even more in kung fu, you practice 'forms' that > attempt to indwell the 'spirit' of various animals in you. These are > all controlling demons. > LOL That's not karate! Even though japs are Shintoists there is no mention of animals there. You are probably referring to Chinese martial arts, kung pao, kung fu, tai chi, etc. But even there, they are just denominations, inspiration, the creator inspired himself in the way of fighting of the animal, distilled the essence of it's strategy and tactic and created the style. Nothing to do with demons! > Real grand masters indeed do overcome the flesh and even, to a degree, > physicality itself, and they are deeply spiritual. Unfortunately, it's > a counterfeit spirituality, even if the person seems, like Mr. Myagi > in the "Karate Kid" to be a really cool, down-to-earth person. The > demons that bring power to this person are under the control of the > god of this world. > Miyagi is an ACTOR. And not a very good one. You just have to see him walk and move to see he has no hara, no chi. >>> But, it's your right to enjoy it, while you can. Good luck with that. >>> >>> >> I'm 50. Bloody God promised us 70 years, >> > > actually He merely (re)set the natural limit to 120 or thereabouts. > Good! Thanks a lot! It's nice to know I have some 50 extra years to sin before repentance! thanks! > Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. You won't just dissolve > into oblivion. But, it's no good trying to "prove" that. It's not > something you can know carnally. > Well in that case, god, hell, heaven and all that jazz are not something you can know carnally. So why would your complicated belief be better off than my simple and down to earth belief? > It does explain, however, why you invite friends to nude cannibal BBQ > parties. ;) > If catholics can eat every sunday the flesh of Christ, then I guess cannibalism is not all that bad. 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