Michael Madigan wrote:
> Someone should do a study on whether anything more than the windows firewall 
> is actually necessary behind a cable router.  

Because Windows makes it very hard to actually produce a usable system where 
you 
aren't running with Administrator privileges, the Windows firewall is 
susceptible to 
attack by web/email trojans (the firewall won't block port 80 or 110, right?). 
So who 
is to say that the Windows firewall has been compromised or not?

Also, the firewall will block certain ports coming in or ports/applications 
going 
out. It is powerless to block trojans or viruses that come in over allowed 
ports.

> When I install a system, I install AVG antivirus and I install Windows 
> Firewall.   That's is.

I also don't install anything but AVG. I keep the Windows security center and 
firewall disabled and run a smart perimeter firewall (linux). Never been 
burned. AVG 
became necessary when the trojan writers got better English and my users 
started 
clicking on links like "Your item has shipped, click here to track your order" 
and 
they happened to have recently ordered something. These types of attacks are 
completely outside the scope of what a firewall can protect against, but so far 
AVG 
has been able to detect and remove them.

Paul


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