At 06:27 2009-07-16, Stephen Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Gene Wirchenko<[email protected]> wrote:
> > Did we say forever? It has not really been
> > that long. I just recently was modifying some
> > VFP procedures that I had not changed in just
> > over ten years. Ten years really is not that long.
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>
>Ten years in tech time is a very very long time. Ten years in
>geologic time is infinitesimally small. We are talking Tech here
>right?
No, we are (or at least I am) talking about
use of tech. The wheel is a form of
technology. It has been in use for much longer than ten years.
> > Excuse me, but I think that communism is
> > obsolete. Since you are embracing change so
> > tightly, you really should use a different
> > paradigm. Or join us. If not, please do not use
> > terrorists; that one is passé, too, and rather overdone.
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>
>Who the F said I was embracing change? What I am writing about is the
>fact that as professional programmers many here find it distasteful
>when the #1 vendor introduces an upgrade to an existing product.
When it breaks existing code and systems.
>If you were a professional you would determine if that might impact
>your product(s). If it does you then decide if you are going to adapt
>or not.
Quite.
>To the contrary I find many on this list just piss and whine about the
>changes.
When the changes create
hassles/emergencies/what-have-you, I can see
people being less than pleased. Remember that
part of a forum is a place to blow steam about
Them. Yes, some take it too far.
In your own way, you are one of them. You
piss and moan about us who refuse to embrace the change.
>Why do you not see this as a perfect REASON to contact former clients
>and tell them that everything is fine with the old SW you made for
>them, and is there anything else I can do for you? Or you can bring
>up the fact that the mail merge or the saving in a .dbf is no longer
>supported in the new version. You customer have two options now.
>Don't upgrade the Office version or let's talk about a change to your
>software when you do in the future.
>
>M$ in this case is opening up door for communication for you. Why is
>your first remark "Close that door! Were you raised in a barn?"
Workable for some. I am effectively an employee.
> > Microsoft breaks our code, and you are OK with that?
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>
>I find it a PITA to test. I then realize that a customer from 2002
>may need something else but I have not called them, because they
>should call me.
Why wait for Microsoft to change a
product? Just keep in touch with your customers.
> >>Would you guess those maintenance fees companies charge are to go
> >>against testing these new products instead of just to your pocket?
> >
> > Possibly. Now, let us ask what the benefit
> > is of the new software. It is possible that it
> > is none or insufficient for the expense. Finance
> > types have a concept called return on investment.
>---------------------------------
>
>I found that Office 2007 was a tremendous update for a few little
>things that I did. Taking spreadsheets and saving them as xml files
>so I could import them into web apps.
>
>I liked how the ribbon kept all the choices for an area visible
>instead of having to dig through a menu to get to them.
>
>Outlook had a much better presentation of demands then 2003.
Some of us did not find it an
improvement. Why do we have kowtow to your views?
> > As a professional, I feel an obligation to not drink the Kool-Aid.
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>
>hahahahaha I love the statements from the true consultant. I refuse
>to identify anything outside of my direct needs. The rest is futile.
What is a true consultant?
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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