Ricardo Araoz wrote: > Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >> Ricardo Araoz wrote: >> >>> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: >>> >>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Leland wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> A rose by any other name is still a rose, and a concentration camp by >>>>>> any other name, (eg interment camp), is still a concentration camp. >>>>>> Many people who were classified as enemy combatant and place in the >>>>>> Guantanamo interment camp have been there for years and under the >>>>>> current patriot act and other new laws that trump the American >>>>>> Constitution, can be held their forever with no requirement to bring >>>>>> charges, no hearings, no habeas corpus, and no trail by jury or any >>>>>> other kind of constitutional due process, etc, and so I think >>>>>> concentration camps are just plan wrong and very Anti-American. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> It's thinking like that that gets innocent people killed. If you would >>>>> like to take responsibility for one, perhaps they can house one in your >>>>> house. It's hard for Americans to comprehend the hatred and fanaticism >>>>> of some of these people. Would you prefer we just take them out and >>>>> shoot them? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Why not use the traditional criminal justice system to determine guilt. >>>> If they are found guilty of a capital offense, they should receive life >>>> in prison. If they are found to be guilty of a lessor crime, they >>>> should sever time in prison. If they are found to be innocent of any >>>> crime, return them to the point from where they were taken. This >>>> shouldn't overwhelm the criminal justice system; because, it is my >>>> understanding there are only about 500 prisoners being held in Guantanamo. >>>> >>>> The prisoners being held at Guantanamo are no more danger than many >>>> prisoner being held on death row today, and to think of them as some >>>> kind of especially dangerous Supermen requiring handling under special >>>> laws is the real danger. >>>> >>>> I say this should all be handled in the traditional American way, (eg >>>> Constitutionally), including the issue of immigration. The USA has been >>>> headed in a dangerous direction ever since 9/11. If this continues, >>>> America will wake up in a generation, or two generation at most, from >>>> now in a completely different world. It will be a world that knows >>>> nothing of Democracy or Constitutional guarantees to privacy, freedom, >>>> and due process. The American way that we knew just a few six or seven >>>> years ago will be gone forever, unless we change direction back to the >>>> foundations upon which the USA was built. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> What a dumb little minded comment. As if USA would be the whole world. >>> Got news for you pal! There are many places where we have democracy and >>> held civil rights higher than in your shitty little country. Places >>> where ABSOLUTELY NO constitutionally elected president has been MURDERED. >>> >>> >>> >> Have you been drinking? I read your post, but your thoughts seem to be >> breaking up. I'm having trouble making anything out of them. >> >> Perhaps you could point to the exactly phrase you considered "dumb >> little minded comment", and examples of the many places we (eg It would >> be interesting to know exactly what the pronoun "we" refers to) have >> democracy and held civil rights higher than in your shitty little >> country. LOL >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> > > You are right Leland, I apologize. You just where the proverbial last > drop. I can see you don't know better but the way you speak is sometimes > annoying to the rest of the world. You say "America" when you refer to a > country (out of three) in North America. You state that if USA looses > democracy then THE WORLD will know "nothing of Democracy or > Constitutional guarantees to privacy, freedom, and due process", as if > you had invented democracy and had the monopoly of freedom. You speak of > the "free world" as if only your allies would know what freedom is. Your > lack of humility is monumental. This transpires constantly out of your > (yanks I mean) posts, even those with which ideas I agree. > So you see, you just took a hit in name of all yanks in this list, sorry. > > Ricardo > > OK. Sometimes I forget the mailing list has member from around the world, not just from my little world. I think we all tend to focus most on our own problems, and I live in the good old USA, which seem to be changing drastically for the worst. When I used the word "world" in the post that offended you, it was in the context of "my own little world", (eg America and other countries in which America has entangled herself).
When I wrote the email, I didn't intend to come off sounding like a bully; I was just being assertive. I can't make my arguments against people like Michael, Pete, and Richard, if my writing style is humble as the dust. LOL In many countries virtues like humility and patience are highly valued, but that doesn't seem to apply in the USA, where more value is placed on assertive, aggressive behavior. I know that many people from all over the world have fought and died for Freedom and Democracy, so America certainly doesn't hold a monopoly on these high principles, and I salute each and every man that has fought for, or died for those principles. They are all heroes. All men, (eg men, women, children), around the world should have the right to Democratic Government and basic Freedoms. Regards, LelandJ > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
