Sorry! It's just frustrating to see SP's good ideas and inherent strengths get crushed like that... ah well, maybe next time.
David Smith Systems Administrator Doan Family of Dealerships (585) 352-6600 ext.1730 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF} Comment on Microsoft So, Dave, why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel about SharePoint <g>? Actually, my hat is off to Dave, as he has been plugging relentlessly forward looking for ever more ways to get to, and harness, a very powerful set of data (if I do say so myself) for his auto dealership organization. I wish I had even half the time available he has spent in his pursuits. Gil > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Smith > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF} Comment on Microsoft > > > Expression Studio: An attempt to combine Frontpage with Visual Studio. > It took weeks, but I did get the hang of it and it is very powerful > for website creation. Honestly though, Frontpage by itself ( despite > all its warts ) was a better product. I abandoned development inside > Expression Studio once I realized I could do the same work 100 times > faster in Frontpage. > > Sharepoint Server: I discovered ( once I got past the complete > nightmare of figuring out how to set it up despite the hole-filled > instructions ) that this platform is really powerful but at the same > time so completely overburdened with unnecessary permissions and > security that I was spending most of my time turning 'safety' features > off in order to see results because I did not use their recommended > approaches 100% of the time. For instance, connecting to and > retrieving data from a VFP dbc ( instead of a MS SQL server ) added at > least 15 steps to go through and opened up dozens of small irritations > that I'd have to stop, figure out and fix before moving forward. > Powerful? Yes. Flexible? Not at all. For the money MS charges, they > could try a lot harder to remember that not everyone has upgraded > everything to the newest possible versions of everything. I really > liked Sharepoint, but between the half-assed documentation and the > extremely narrow path they set it just wasn't worth the time I was > investing in it. A shame, really. > > David Smith > Systems Administrator > Doan Family of Dealerships > (585) 352-6600 ext.1730 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garrett Fitzgerald Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF} Comment on Microsoft On 9/18/07, Jeff Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do any of you gurus know how to use any of these? When I say "use" I > mean deploy on a customer site. > > Microsoft Team Foundation Server > Microsoft Expression Studio > Microsoft Business Scorecard Manager > Microsoft Office InfoPath > Microsoft Office Groove > Microsoft Office Project Portfolio Server > Microsoft Office SharePoint Server > Microsoft Office InterConnect > Microsoft BizTalk > Microsoft Commerce Server Developer Edition > Microsoft Connected Services Framework > Microsoft Exchange Server > Microsoft Host Integration Server > Microsoft Identity Integration Server > Microsoft Live Communications > Microsoft Office OneNote > Microsoft BizTalk Server > Microsoft Portal Service > Microsoft MOM Speech Server > Microsoft SMS Server > Microsoft ISA Server > Microsoft Access ;^) About the only thing there I have any experience with installing is Sharepoint Server, and that was on my own machine. I've used Groove in the field before Microsoft bought it, but couldn't get the guy I was working with to buy into it, so that kind of died on the vine. [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
