Fellow VFP'ers
I looked at Servoy a while ago and in 2007 but didn't consider it in the same 
league as VFP for desktop application development. Subsequent to that I have 
started using in the last 4-5 months Real Basic. Now before you guys get on 
your horse about "Basic" as I would have done in years past, Real Basic is as 
near to VFP as I have seen. It has really good OOP components and handles local 
data using SQLite DBF in a similar way to native VFP tables but all SQL based. 

In the latest release V2011 they have included multi-user access to the 
localised databases and also what is known as web edition so you can run your 
application as a web based application. You can't just convert from Desktop to 
Web based for obvious reasons, but you can use the same IDS and on top of all 
that it is really platform independent. I can write an application in Windows 
and generate an executable to run on Mac OSX or Linus... simply by setting the 
compile options ... it really is that easy. I rewrote my VFP timeclock system 
over two weeks in RB and now have it running on Linux, Windows and Mac, or any 
combination with no extra effort. Oh, and did I say that there are no client 
licensing problems as the executables produced can be run without any 
runtime(s).

There are various controls and API calls that are unique to windows (again all 
a standard part of the language) but they are well documented as not being 
multi-platform. Also there are loads of components such as TCP/IP connectors, 
Multi media players, server sockets, OLE containers, HTML viewers, Database 
controls (MySQL, SQL LIght, MSSQL and other ODBC Connectors) all built in as 
standard controls along with the standard listboxes, pageframes, comboboxes 
etc..

Currently I have two applications that are being evaluated for inclusion in the 
Apple APP store, both for standard OSX and yes, the inclusion of Cocoa as a 
framework is in the V2011, still in Beta but usable despite a few problems that 
are being fixed as they are reported means RB will support OSX for future 
development.. 

The user groups are also pretty good but not a patch on VFP i.e. Profox, but 
which user forums/groups are!! In addition there are loads of add-ons or 
plugins that really enhance the product, the main ones coming from 
In short I am well impressed with it and the interface will be picked up by 
anyone with VFP experience extremely quickly. Take a look at:

http://www.monkeybreadsoftware.de/realbasic/

..along with many freeware plugins.

That, with the fact that the developers are really open to 
additions/enhancements to the product gives it a thumbs up from me.

Not all positive though as the main drawback was the availability of live 
datagrids like we all love in VFP. In RB you need to cannibalise a Listbox 
Baseclass as appropriate and subclass it. Either that or use a pre-subclassed 
listbox component from Einhugar software called Datagrid V6 which gives the 
equivalent of VFP Datagrids ... then some more!

I Give it a look guys ... I think you'll be impressed, I was/am.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Copeland
Sent: 13 September 2011 03:20
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: Anybody using VS Lightswitch

Agreed+++

Well put.

Mike

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re: Anybody using VS Lightswitch
From: José Olavo Cerávolo <jocerav...@yahoo.com>
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Date: 9/12/2011 6:46 PM

Hi Guys,

My fault...

I do not consider Servoy as a solution.

I want to be able to build applications for medium, small and even home users.
I don't want the application to be attached to a service.
Any company selling a service in place of VFP cannot sell itself as a 
replacement to it neither the evolution of it.
So, at least for myself, Servoy is a waste of my time. 
I find the use of VFP as a hook to get new customers at a minimum misguided and 
probably deceiving.
I do not trust them because of this and their price schedule is unreal for most 
small companies.
And no, they can't get me to change my mind after making me waste my time to 
evaluate it as a replacement for VFP. I don't have that much time available and 
they were careless about it.

  
José Olavo Cerávolo
http://www.ceravoloconsulting.com/


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