Hmm, I have not got into VOIP yet as I don't make that many calls and my mobile T-Mob contract gives me heaps of talk n text time. As for BT, you could say that but Ofcom would cut your balls off because in theory, and I mean 'theory' BT Wholesale has nothing to do with BT resale. In fact in my opinion they should force BT Resale to rename its company and completely cut its ties with BT Wholesale. There are some definite backhanders that move between the two.
As for the contention thing, I am not 100% what they mean. Maybe it's something to do with the fact that most ISP's have some sort of traffic management services installed onto their networks? Oh and BTW, I use PlusNET Broadband Plus, which for £15 gives me 3GB of peak time usage (4pm to midnight) and unlimited* at off peak. * They say that but really there are FUP's applied (Fair usage policy). They would be good apart from all the dodgy things they try and pull, like recently moving people over onto an LLU with Tiscali without telling them and then when they want to migrate, they can't because they are no longer on the BT network. Joys! Tristan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Posted At: 19 June 2006 18:38 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] Cringely roasts Bill Subject: Re: [NF] Cringely roasts Bill http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060615.html some interesting comments on net neutrality - and timely because I've just decided to sign up for some 'non-free' voip - so who have I chosen? skype? vonage? freetalk? - no, good old BT. They may not be the most trendy or 'open' choice but they are still the only real wholesale carrier in the UK and if anyones voip packets are going to get 'hurt' I'm guessing it won't be BT's btw my isp is now saying that 'contention' is old hat (anyone know about this?) and that what counts is priority - the more you pay the better your service. Certainly I get good service on my old-style (i.e. expensive) account with them - it is only 256/512 which is the best my line can run - but 90% of the time I *get* 256/512 Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ********************************************************************** [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

