On 05-Dec-2013 12:40 am, "Viktor Dukhovni" <postfix-us...@dukhovni.org>
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 12:23:50AM +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
>
> > > > What am I missing?
> > >
> > > Don't let your PHP applications send mail to arbitrary addresses
> > > unless they are restricted to authenticated trusted users.  If the
> > > latter, make sure you have valid sender addresses recorded for each
> > > such user, and use these rather than webform input as the sender
> > > address.  If a submitted message from a trusted user bounces, the
> > > right user receives the bounce.
> > >
> > > If some of your users are spammers, solve that problem, just
> > > filtering out messages to invalid recipients is not the right
> > > answer.
> >
> > I have sufficient spam and virus protection using amavisd. That's
> > not the issue.  Some applications keep trying to send mail to
> > addresses which keep failing and it fills the queue. Plus gets
> > the server IP a bad name because of frequent failure.
>
> Why are the applications doing this?  Sending recipient verification
> probes may also be detrimental to your server's reputation.
>

Probes may not be that much of a issue because it doesn't probe more than
thrice a day. For one address. Presently there are 2-3 failing addresses.

> > And as a hosting service provider I can't control each and every aspect.
> > So chose this method.
>
> You're hosting PHP applications for clients that send mail?  And
> the ones that repeatedly send email to invalid addresses are not
> spamming?
>

Spam in technical sense not in human sense.

> You're solving the problem at the wrong layer.  Route all mail from
> the local submission MSA via an intermediate MTA that performs
> content analysis for spam and log analysis for repeated bounces.
>

Postfix is already clubbed to amavisd because the server has virtual
domains too. Know of some software which can be used for this purpose?

> Disconnect customers that violate sender best practices or your AUP.
>
> Is hosting PHP apps that send bulk email worth the trouble?  I
> would severely rate limit mail submission from each client's hosted
> site sent to any address outside a small white-list they can change
> at most once a week intended to allow unlimited mail to the website
> owner.  Users who want to send bulk email can work with a legitimate
> bulk email provider.
>
> --
>         Viktor

These aren't bulk mail. Some misconfiguration on application operator's
part.
Invalid addresses to which the application is supposed to send legitimate
messages.

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