thank you for your feedback Am 07.11.2013 23:45, schrieb Viktor Dukhovni: > Postfix provides a more natural user interface in terms of cipher > grades (null, export, low, medium, high). These have sensibly easy > to reason about security properties. > > I've seen many subtle and not so-subtle errors when mere mortals > (including myself) have tried to use the raw OpenSSL cipherlist > syntax.
that's clear, but on the other hand having exactly the same configuration on SMTP/POP3/IMAP makes it unlikely that a client behaves different and may fail for the one and not for the other > Making that be the Postfix interface would be a disservice > to Postfix users. in my current case where i played round over weeks with the Apache configuration and https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ the opposite is true >> I am speaking here about non-MX servers only for submission >> what I most appreciate in this way of configuration is >> openssl ciphers -v '{cipherlist}' to verify it > > $ postfix_ciphers() { > grade="$1" > openssl ciphers -v "$(postconf -xh tls_${grade}_cipherlist)" > } > > $ postfix_ciphers null > ECDHE-RSA-NULL-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=None Mac=SHA1 > ECDHE-ECDSA-NULL-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=None Mac=SHA1 > ECDH-RSA-NULL-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=None Mac=SHA1 > ECDH-ECDSA-NULL-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=None Mac=SHA1 > NULL-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=None > Mac=SHA256 > NULL-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=None Mac=SHA1 > NULL-MD5 SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=None Mac=MD5 > > The above requires a Postfix recent enough to support "postconf > -x", otherwise, drop the "x" and it'll probably still work, provided > there are no ${variable} macros in your main.cf overrides of these > parameters. cool, yes always the latest stable release in use > If you MUST muck around with raw OpenSSL cipherlists, the underlying > > tls_<grade>_cipherlist > parameters are present and documented, along with appropriate > warnings to not go there. > > Note that Postfix will still apply implicit and configured exclusions > to these based on context (!aNULL when verifying peer certificates) that does not work with "smtpd_tls_security_level = may" and "smtpd_tls_security_level = encrypt" is impossible without breaking historical client setups nobody knows how to explain them all to enable encryption on different devices _______________________________ "smtpd_tls_exclude_ciphers" seems not to work as expected because DES ciphers are still enabled [root@testserver:~]$ postconf -n | grep smtpd_tls_exclude_ciphers smtpd_tls_exclude_ciphers = 3DES, ADH, aNULL, DES, DSS, eNULL, EXP, KRB5, MD5, PSK, RC2, SEED, SRP [root@testserver:~]$ postconf -xh tls_high_cipherlist aNULL:-aNULL:ALL:!EXPORT:!LOW:!MEDIUM:+RC4:@STRENGTH [root@testserver:~]$ openssl ciphers -v 'aNULL:-aNULL:ALL:!EXPORT:!LOW:!MEDIUM:+RC4:@STRENGTH' AECDH-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=None Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD ADH-AES256-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA256 ADH-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=Camellia(256) Mac=SHA1 ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA384 ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA384 ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 DHE-DSS-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA256 DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA256 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=Camellia(256) Mac=SHA1 DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=Camellia(256) Mac=SHA1 ECDH-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD ECDH-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD ECDH-RSA-AES256-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA384 ECDH-ECDSA-AES256-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA384 ECDH-RSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 ECDH-ECDSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD AES256-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA256 AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 CAMELLIA256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=Camellia(256) Mac=SHA1 PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1 AECDH-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=None Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 ADH-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 ECDHE-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 ECDHE-ECDSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 EDH-DSS-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 ECDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 ECDH-ECDSA-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 DES-CBC3-MD5 SSLv2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=MD5 PSK-3DES-EDE-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 KRB5-DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=KRB5 Au=KRB5 Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 KRB5-DES-CBC3-MD5 SSLv3 Kx=KRB5 Au=KRB5 Enc=3DES(168) Mac=MD5 AECDH-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=None Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1 ADH-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD ADH-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256 ADH-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1 ADH-CAMELLIA128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=None Enc=Camellia(128) Mac=SHA1 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256 ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1 ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1 DHE-DSS-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256 DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256 DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1 DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1 DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=Camellia(128) Mac=SHA1 DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=DSS Enc=Camellia(128) Mac=SHA1 ECDH-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD ECDH-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256 ECDH-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256 ECDH-RSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/RSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1 ECDH-ECDSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=ECDH/ECDSA Au=ECDH Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1 AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256 AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1 CAMELLIA128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=Camellia(128) Mac=SHA1 PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
