"raras" não é o caso da locaweb.

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Em 14 de fevereiro de 2011 15:25, Paulo Henrique BSD Brasil <
paulo.rd...@bsd.com.br> escreveu:

> Entra em contato com a LocalWeb informa que o mx.a deles está com algum
> problema na conexão.
> Isso se eles já não estar providenciando a localicação do cabo para poder
> resolver.
> Infelizmente trabalhos sobre tecnologia experimental, e falhas de hardware
> ocorrem, embora raras, mais não ausentes.
>
> Em 14/2/2011 14:20, Gabriel Ricardo escreveu:
>
>> hj ta feio aqui, HAHA
>> ja pinguei e foi, mas telnet para a porta 25 não foi.
>>
>> [root@correio ~]# mailq | grep locaweb
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>        (connect to mx.a.locaweb.com.br[186.202.4.42]:25: Connection timed
>> out)
>>
>>
>> Atenciosamente,
>> *Gabriel Ricardo.*
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Em 14 de fevereiro de 2011 10:41, Eduardo Schoedler<
>> eschoed...@viavale.com.br>  escreveu:
>>
>>  O problema de timeout deve ter sido por problema de conectividade, mais
>>> gente reclamou em outras listas.
>>>
>>> Inclusive sugiro postar esse tipo de problema primeiro na lista CAIU [1].
>>>
>>> https://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/caiu
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eduardo Schoedler
>>> Enviado via iPhone
>>>
>>> Em 13/02/2011, às 23:08, inaldo<inald...@gmail.com>  escreveu:
>>>
>>>  O serviço de relay esta funcionando perfeitamente, a questão do limite
>>>> de
>>>> 100 emails por hora foi só durante a migração dos servidores, limitaram
>>>> todos os clientes durante o periodo de migração.
>>>> Quanto a utilizar uma conta unica para relay não faz diferença, o
>>>>
>>> importante
>>>
>>>> como citado é utilizar relay autenticado.
>>>> O erro de timeout pode ser um problema de conectividade com a locaweb ou
>>>> problema no servidor mesmo, mas não é relay, o postfix é muito claro e
>>>> especifico no seu log.
>>>>
>>>> Em 13 de fevereiro de 2011 16:45, Leandro Mendes
>>>> <theflock...@gmail.com>escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>  Relay, na verdade rola. O problema é se você está fazendo autenticação
>>>>>
>>>> com
>>>
>>>> uma única conta para o relay. Daí cai no limite de 100 por hora.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/2/13 Marcelo Terres<mhter...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Claro,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sempre foi autenticado. Eles simplesmente pararam de aceitar o relay e
>>>>>>
>>>>> era
>>>>>
>>>>>> isso.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enfim, a Locaweb já não é grande coisas desde que começou a priorizar
>>>>>> o serviço de mail marketing (spam com nome bonito).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Volta e meia os servidores deles estão em blacklists, sem contar que o
>>>>>> suporte não presta (deixam os clientes esperando no telefone por horas
>>>>>> e não resolvem coisa nenhuma).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Total desrespeito com o cliente sem contar que eles sempre tentam
>>>>>> tirar o corpo fora (ou alguém esqueceu aquele problema no ano passado,
>>>>>> onde eles tentaram culpar a RedHat ???).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> []s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcelo H. Terres
>>>>>> mhter...@gmail.com
>>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>>> ICQ: 6649932
>>>>>> MSN: mhter...@hotmail.com
>>>>>> Jabber: mhter...@jabber.org
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/mhterres
>>>>>> http://identi.ca/mhterres
>>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>>> http://mundoopensource.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> http://offtopicsandfun.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> http://www.propus.com.br
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/2/13 Eduardo Schoedler<eschoed...@viavale.com.br>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Calma, eh uma regra básica de postfix! Se o remetente eh usuário do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> servidor, só permite relay autenticado. Já tentou?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Eduardo Schoedler
>>>>>>> Enviado via iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 13/02/2011, às 10:28, Marcelo Terres<mhter...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>>  Tenho 2 clientes que não conseguiram mais fazer relay depois da
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> migração.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em contato com o suporte da Locaweb eles foram informados de que a
>>>>>>>> Locaweb não aceitaria mais relay em seus servidores...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> O que eles fizeram: pararam de usar a LIXOweb :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> []s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marcelo H. Terres
>>>>>>>> mhter...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>>>>> ICQ: 6649932
>>>>>>>> MSN: mhter...@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>> Jabber: mhter...@jabber.org
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/mhterres
>>>>>>>> http://identi.ca/mhterres
>>>>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>>>>> http://mundoopensource.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>> http://offtopicsandfun.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>> http://www.propus.com.br
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2011/2/13 inaldo<inald...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Só se essa diretiva for para clientes novos, pois tenho mais ou
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> menos
>>>
>>>>  20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  clientes que utilizam a locaweb como relay(Logico que todos têm o
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dominio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  hospedado lá) e só tive problemas no periodo de migração do
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> datacenter
>>>>>
>>>>>> e
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  mesmo assim o erro nao era de timeout e sim de limitação do envio de
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> emails,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  pois durante este periodo, limitaram o envio para 100 emails por
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hora
>>>
>>>>  por
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  cliente.
>>>>>>>>> Como disse o Wilian no log do postfix acusaria relay not permitted
>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> não
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  time out como descrito.
>>>>>>>>> Trabalho com a Locaweb a 5 anos e tradicionalmente ela sempre foi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> muito
>>>>>
>>>>>>  instavel(e olha que ela é a melhor provedora atualmente), só
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> melhorou
>>>
>>>>  depois
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  da migração no final de 2009, mas mesmo assim do nada ela da pau e
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> alem
>>>>>
>>>>>> de
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  não conseguir falar no suporte telefonico e no chat online quando se
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> entra
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  no panel de controle do dominio voce vê a mensagem de: "O serviço de
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  esta apresentando problemas e esta instavel e já estamos trabalhando
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  corrigi-lo".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Att.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 13 de fevereiro de 2011 00:49, Leandro Mendes
>>>>>>>>> <theflock...@gmail.com>escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Eu sugiro á todos que tiverem este problema, não deixem passar
>>>>>>>>>> despercebido.
>>>>>>>>>> Mande um e-mail pro ab...@locaweb.com.br reclamando que está
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rolando
>>>>>
>>>>>> isso.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Já vi acontecer com várias pessoas, e até mesmo com meus
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> servidores.
>>>
>>>>   Normalmente, depois de alguns retries, funciona, mas isso significa
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> atraso
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  do seu lado, logo, vai aparentar que o problema é seu, e não da
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Locaweb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Acredito que a estrutura de entrada está sendo escalada para
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> resolver
>>>>>
>>>>>> o
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  problema do retry (pelo menos era o que estava pra ser feito).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Para esclarecer, sou ex-funcionário da Locaweb e acompanhei a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> alteração de
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  plataforma. Mesmo que minha participação no projeto tenha sido
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nula,
>>>
>>>>  sei
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  que
>>>>>>>>>> este problema vem acontecendo há um bom tempo.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reclamem, senão vai continuar "ferrando" a vida de vocês.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Valeu.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2011/2/12 Marcelo Terres<mhter...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Segundo informações da própria Locaweb para alguns clientes que
>>>>>>>>>>> atendo, eles não permitem mais relay em sua estrutura.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sem comentários...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marcelo H. Terres
>>>>>>>>>>> mhter...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ: 6649932
>>>>>>>>>>> MSN: mhter...@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Jabber: mhter...@jabber.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/mhterres
>>>>>>>>>>> http://identi.ca/mhterres
>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>>>>>>>> http://mundoopensource.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://offtopicsandfun.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.propus.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/2/12 Wiliam de Freitas<wil...@bsd.com.br>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em caso de relay, creio que o log evidenciaria isso, Marcelo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A Locaweb possui algumas regras rigorosas anti-spam. Nao duvido
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> que
>>>>>
>>>>>>  haja
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bloqueio para o seu servidor, Tairone. Isso eh logado com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "timeout"
>>>>>
>>>>>> no
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  postfix. Vc pode testar por Telnet e ver se ha bloqueios para o
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> seu
>>>>>
>>>>>>  host.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Esse log tambem ocorre quando sua conexao nao chega no destino.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Veja
>>>>>
>>>>>> se
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  nao
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> se trata de latencia na sua rota ate a rede da Locaweb.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Abracos!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 12 de fevereiro de 2011 11:08, Marcelo Terres<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mhter...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Para conhecimento: a Locaweb não permite mais que seus clientes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> façam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   relay em seus servidores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tal política foi adotada para evitar o envio de spams...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> []s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcelo H. Terres
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mhter...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ: 6649932
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN: mhter...@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jabber: mhter...@jabber.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/mhterres
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://identi.ca/mhterres
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****************************************
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mundoopensource.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://offtopicsandfun.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.propus.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/2/11 inaldo<inald...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Locaweb da muito pau, entra no seu painel de controle e ve o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> status
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  do
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  serviço de email. Se voce faz relay la, muito provavelmente é
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pau
>>>>>
>>>>>> lá
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   mesmo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ainda mais que voce nao esta conseguindo falar no suporte.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 11 de fevereiro de 2011 21:50, Reinaldo de Carvalho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <reinal...@gmail.com>escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  2011/2/11 lunix<luni...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seu DNS reverso está com problemas ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Não há ligação com DNS reverso, "timeout" é um conceito
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> padrão
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   perda ou impossibilidade de comunicação. Provavelmente o link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> da
>>>>>
>>>>>>   locaweb esta fora do ar, ou houve alteração dos IPs dos MXs e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> este
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  IP
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  não é mais valido, sendo necessário aguarda a resolução
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correta
>>>
>>>>  do
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   hostname.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reinaldo de Carvalho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://korreio.sf.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://python-cyrus.sf.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "While not fully understand a software, don't try to adapt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>
>>>>    software to the way you work, but rather yourself to the way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>   software works" (myself)
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