On 14/11/21 20:32, Rob LA LAU wrote:
And hi again,
On 14/11/2021 19:42, Guido Falsi wrote:
> IN fact I would very astonished if some port (say firefox for
example) started behaving very differently than it does on other OSes
for no good technical reason.
True.
But what if we're not talking about 'behaving very differently'. How
about we patch a browser to send the user's passwords to a server we
own, while - apart from that - the browser continues to work as expected?
I'd argue that adding such a behaviour is a significant change in behaviour.
Apart from that such a change would be criminal in most jurisdictions
too. And I'd add that the juridical system would simply persecute
whoever owns the server the information is being sent too.
My opinion about allowed changes is also guided by avoiding this kind of
risks.
> OTOH a valid technical reason could be dropping some functionality
depending on some API not available on FreeBSD, just to make an example
from the top of my head. >
Dropping something because it is impossible to implement is different.
Sometimes you don't have a choice.
Exactly, so an acceptable change.
My initial question was about a script that was added by the port
maintainer, which is not quite the same. Patching software to log
keystrokes, or to open a backdoor is also different.
I did not reply directly to your original question because I don't have
a final solution.
You talk about "adding a periodic script". That is not even a real
modification to the upstream software IMHO. Just adding some glue code
for FreeBSD. If the script does what it advertises, and has no malicious
intent I see nothing wrong with it. If it is broken fixing it is the
logical thing to do.
Again, this is my personal opinion though.
Clearly you can't solve all these problems by creating some guidelines
and rules. But I don't think that a serious software project can
continue without rules. Just like we need passwords and keys.
And preferably those rules would be very clear and simple, so that the
compliance can be verified (largely) in an automated fashion.
Being a son of two lawyers, and having a lot of friends who are lawyers,
and also clients who are law firms, my informed (by having had a lot of
arguments with all these people about this very subject) opinion is that
there is no such thing in the world as a "clear and simple" set of rules.
I think I could simplify this in an aphorism like this:
About rules and laws: Simple, clear and useful, you can't have all
three, pick two.
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Guido Falsi <madpi...@freebsd.org>