Hi Steffen,

You are right on the difference between sflow and netflow/ipfix. Only
thing i can propose is to drop the timestamp_start primitive in favor
of time binning (print_history config directive and a print_output_file
with time reference as part of the filename). It will never be as fine
grained as netflow/ipfix (i'm thinking to the case case of tcp ports
reusal) but it is definitely something.

Cheers,
Paolo


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 02:44:44PM +0000, Steffen Plotner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been able to collect netflow data from our palo alto device for 
> forensic analysis purposes and started to study sflow data from the juniper 
> switches. I understand that sflow is based on statistical sampling, which 
> clearly cannot catch every packet, but one can lower the 1:x ratio low enough 
> for that to work. Having done, that I had the following aggregate statement 
> (sfacctd):
> 
> aggregate[track_raw]: label, src_host, dst_host, src_port, dst_port, proto, 
> tcpflags, in_iface, out_iface, cos, etype, src_mac, dst_mac, vlan, 
> timestamp_start
> 
> which, because of the timestamp_start field, cannot aggregate data together 
> for packets that belong to the same session (flow).
> 
> I was comparing an http download on the netflow side and saw that I had a 
> couple of entries with hundreds of packets and a packet size matching the 
> download.
> 
> On the sflow collecting side, I had hundreds of individual entries each with 
> a packet count of 1 - now I am realizing that sfacct cannot aggregate 
> anything in terms of sflow data because of the timestamp_start.
> 
> But I need the timestamp_start in the output (json file) - how can one go 
> about that?
> 
> I feel that sflow is really nothing equivalent to netflow - basically netflow 
> has done a ton of work putting together netflow records of complete 
> transactions, while sflow just produces packet meta data that another 
> collector has to put together and make up the transactions - and if the 
> ending tcp flags are not there, then you are stuck.
> 
> Thank you for your help.
> 
> Steffen
> 
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