On Tue 12 Jun 2007, Ruben Laban wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 June 2007, Ruben Laban wrote:
> > On Monday 11 June 2007, Paolo Lucente wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 01:12:22PM +0200, Ruben Laban wrote:
> > > > On a more detailed side (and I admit I'm still reading the docs), I
> > > > am wondering about some specific configuration issues. The memory
> > > > size of various pools/buffers/etc in particular. One location has an
> > > > 100Mbit/s uplink and the other 1Gbit/s uplink which is currently
> > > > throttled to about 150-200Mbit/s. I don't have any actual numbers of
> > > > packets/s, but only bytes/s and the fact that most traffic is HTTP.
> > > > The average usage of both lines fluctuates between 20-40 Mbit/s with
> > > > peaks upto 150Mbit/s for one location.
> > > >
> > > > Related to the above is also the performance of pmacct and the load
> > > > it imposes on the machine. The firewalls in question are Dell PE860
> > > > machines with dual core Xeon's at 3GHz, 1 or 2GB of ram and running
> > > > Suse Linux Enterprise Server 9.
> > >
> > > I see your boxes are pretty beefy, you should not encounter issues of
> > > any sort with it. If you are going the promiscuous mode way, would
> > > suggest you to take a close look to Q5 of FAQS document - which
> > > encompasses some tips both about bufferization and how you can
> > > optimize CPU usage while getting packets off the wire
> > > PF_RING/libpcap-mmap/etc.
> >
> > I will be using it inline (monitoring will be done on our border
> > firewalls), but concerning memory/cpu load I doubt that that would make
> > much of a difference. I'll take another look at the sections concerning
> > the buffering, though last time I had some troubles translating the
> > various tips to actual numbers suited for our scenario. Then again, I
> > guess it pretty much always will require a bit trial and error to find
> > the optimal settings.
>
> I did a little bit of testing just now. I noticed that with the default
> buffer settings that the load was higher than I had expected (taken from
> 'top'):
>
>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
> 21300 root      15   0 28808 6160 5664 S  9.3  0.3  55:23.08 pmacctd: Core
> Process [default]
> 21302 root      15   0 34752  11m  10m S  2.3  0.6  20:01.15 pmacctd: IMT
> Plugin [out]
> 21301 root      15   0 34752  11m  10m S  1.7  0.6  14:12.08 pmacctd: IMT
> Plugin [in]
>
> After changing the buffer settings to 10240 / 10240000, the load
> drastically reduced:
>
>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
>  1332 root      15   0 44712  21m  21m S  1.7  1.1   0:19.97 pmacctd: Core
> Process [default]
>  1333 root      15   0 42704  19m  18m S  0.0  1.0   0:00.70 pmacctd: IMT
> Plugin [in]
>  1334 root      15   0 42704  19m  18m S  0.3  1.0   0:01.00 pmacctd: IMT
> Plugin [out]
>
> These numbers are with a load of about 12MB/s, which isn't all that much.
> Especially since we're expecting to see load of more than 10 times this
> ammount occasionally.
>
> I am still researching further optimizations. PF_RING sounds promising but
> since it requires a kernel rebuild I'd very much like to avoid that road.
> Being able to run stock SuSE kernels surely has my preference. Using
> libpcap-mmap seems to be way to go. I'll have to investigate how I can
> install this version of libpcap alongside the 'normal' libpcap and have
> only pmacctd use it (again to stay as close as possible to a clean SuSE
> install).

Hi Ruben

I maintain the pmacct packages for SUSE (and some other distros) and run 
pmacct myself in production on SLES10. I would be happy to assist you in 
building (if possible) libpcap-mmap packages for SUSE.

Cheers

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Peter Nixon
http://www.peternixon.net/
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