Triode;332941 Wrote: 
> The timeout is associate with the bit of code which tries to find out
> the length of the program.  Do you get the same problem with all bbc
> streams - both live and listen again?

hi Triode,

yes, exactly the same with live streams, and listen again.

don't know if this helps any:


Code:
--------------------
    
  # telnet rmlive.bbc.co.uk 554
  Trying 212.58.227.88...
  Connected to rmlivev11.bbc.net.uk.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  DESCRIBE 
rtsp://rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra?BBC-UID=14e8e98b537cb4198016eadab000c02954fac14430b0b16484cf0a2134ed9b27&SSO2-UID=
 RTSP/1.0
  
  RTSP/1.0 200 OK
  Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:46:57 GMT
  Content-base: 
rtsp://rmlive.bbc.co.uk/bbc-rbs/rmlive/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra?BBC-UID=14e8e98b537cb4198016eadab000c02954fac14430b0b16484cf0a2134ed9b27&SSO2-UID=/
  Vary: User-Agent, ClientID
  Content-type: application/sdp
  x-real-usestrackid: 1
  Content-length: 4217
  
  v=0
  o=- 456289 456289 IN IP4 212.58.227.88
  s=Radio 4
  i=RealSystem Broadcast Distribution
  c=IN IP4 0.0.0.0
  t=0 0
  a=SdpplinVersion:1610641560
  a=StreamCount:integer;1
  a=control:*
  a=AvgBitRate:integer;240483
  a=Flags:integer;18
  a=DataOffset:integer;1990
  a=AvgPacketSize:integer;744
  a=IsRealDataType:integer;1
  a=Preroll:integer;2321
  a=Indexable:integer;1
  a=MaxBitRate:integer;240483
  a=MaxPacketSize:integer;744
  a=IndexOffset:integer;0
  a=NumInterleavePackets:integer;0
  a=LiveStream:integer;1
  a=Title:buffer;"UmFkaW8gNAA="
  a=Copyright:buffer;"KEMpIEJyaXRpc2ggQnJvYWRjYXN0aW5nIENvcnBvcmF0aW9uIDIwMDgA"
  a=Author:buffer;"QkJDAA=="
  a=Content Rating:string;"(PICS-1.1 \"http://www.classify.org/safesurf\"; 
labels comment \"RealProducer Plus 8.5.0.391 Solaris\" ratings (SS~~000 1))"
  a=Modification Date:string;"7/7/2008 15:26:09"
  a=Generated By:string;"RealMedia Build Engine 6.0.11.402 Unix"
  a=Target Audiences:string;"28K Modem (20 Kbps);56K Modem (34 Kbps);"
  a=Video Quality:string;"No Video"
  a=Audio Format:string;"No Audio"
  a=Creation Date:string;"7/7/2008 15:26:09"
  m=audio 0 RTP/AVP 101
  b=AS:70
  b=RR:2403
  b=RS:801
  a=control:streamid=0
  a=range:npt=0-
  a=length:npt=0
  a=rtpmap:101 x-pn-multirate-realaudio-live/1000
  a=fmtp:101 
  a=mimetype:string;"audio/x-pn-multirate-realaudio-live"
  a=MinimumSwitchOverlap:integer;200
  a=StartTime:integer;0
  a=AvgBitRate:integer;64083
  a=AvgPacketSize:integer;744
  a=SeekGreaterOnSwitch:integer;0
  a=Preroll:integer;4642
  a=IsInterleaved:integer;20
  a=MaxPacketSize:integer;744
  a=MaxBitRate:integer;64083
  a=RMFF 1.0 Flags:buffer;"ABAAAgAAAAIAAAACAAAAAgAAAAIAAAACAAAAAgAAAAIAAA=="
  
a=OpaqueData:buffer;"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
 EAACsRAAAABAAAmdlbnJjb29rAQIAAAAAAAgBAAACCAAAJQ=="
  a=StreamName:string;"Audio Stream"
  a=ASMRuleBook:string;"#($Bandwidth < 
16193),AverageBandwidth=11025,Priority=5;#($Bandwidth < 
16193),AverageBandwidth=0,Priority=5,OnDepend=\"0\", 
OffDepend=\"0\";#($Bandwidth >= 16193) && ($Bandwidth < 
19983),AverageBandwidth=16193,Priority=5;#($Bandwidth >= 16193) && ($Bandwidth 
< 19983),AverageBandwidth=0,Priority=5,OnDepend=\"2\", 
OffDepend=\"2\";#($Bandwidth >= 19983) && ($Bandwidth < 
20672),AverageBandwidth=19983,Priority=5;#($Bandwidth >= 19983) && ($Bandwidth 
< 20672),AverageBandwidth=0,Priority=5,OnDepend=\"4\", 
OffDepend=\"4\";#($Bandwidth >= 20672) && ($Bandwidth < 
32041),AverageBandwidth=20672,Priority=5,PNMKeyframeRule=T;#($Bandwidth >= 
20672) && ($Bandwidth < 32041),AverageBandwidth=0,Priority=5,OnDepend=\"6\", 
OffDepend=\"6\",PNMNonKeyframeRule=T;#($Bandwidth >= 32041) && ($Bandwidth < 
32386),AverageBandwidth=32041,Priority=5;#($Bandwidth >= 32041) && ($Bandwidth 
< 32386),AverageBandwidth=0,Priority=5,OnDepend=\"8\", 
OffDepend=\"8\";#($Bandwidth >= 32386) && (
 $Bandwidth < 44100),AverageBandwidth=32386,Priority=5;#($Bandwidth >= 32386) 
&& ($Bandwidth < 44100),AverageBandwidth=0,Priority=5,OnDepend=\"10\", 
OffDepend=\"10\";#($Bandwidth >= 44100) && ($Bandwidth < 
64083),AverageBandwidth=44100,Priority=5;#($Bandwidth >= 44100) && ($Bandwidth 
< 64083),AverageBandwidth=0,Priority=5,OnDepend=\"12\", 
OffDepend=\"12\";#($Bandwidth >= 
64083),AverageBandwidth=64083,Priority=5;#($Bandwidth >= 
64083),AverageBandwidth=0,Priority=5,OnDepend=\"14\", OffDepend=\"14\";"
  
--------------------


many thanks
Matt


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