I wonder if ChatGPT or Deepseek could help me make website code that can work with text-only browsers elinks or w3m.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2025 at 8:28 PM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss < [email protected]> wrote: > Um, welcome to my world. If the site isn’t setup logically with clearly > defined areas, it can get rather confusing to me (yeah, totally blind and I > hate dynamic content sites with a bloody passion). And yes, like that AI, > if I can’t perceive placement visually, then it’s next to impossible for me > to place the elements in a visually appealing style (I go with what sounds > right given my ears and the screen reader). > > Btw, because of my situation, I like sites that use dedicated frames for > the top banner, main content and footer items (one can add more and link > them into the main content frame like many of thee built-in web servers on > commodity wifi-routers). > > -Eric > From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, the seeing isn’t > believing Dept. > > > On Jul 4, 2025, at 2:36 PM, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I spent about 5 hours last night working with Claude AI to help build a > web page where it was helping me update a bunch of html/php and css files > that it generated itself. The two main pages were a lot fancier than I > would have made, but it had a lot of trouble making them look right in all > situations. I had it generate a footer with standard pages (Privacy, Terms, > About Us, etc.) and while they were all the same layout, I had to go > through nearly 2 dozen iterations to make them look decent on all platforms! > > I was amazed by the css this thing generated, particularly because I’m > horrible with CSS. But I can’t believe how many times we had to keep going > over the same things because of one change after another that did not work. > > If it’s just logic that can be clearly tested, that’s one thing. > > But AI cannot “see” things; and while we humans can, it’s hard for us to > explain visual issues to a mechanism that’s basically blind and cannot even > display what it’s doing on the screen. > > I was viewing this page in several browsers on my desktop, a large iPad, > an iPad Mini, and my phone. I’ve gotta say, this crap drives me nuts! I had > to keep suggesting ways to fix it and it would sometimes take four or five > attempts for it to get it right! I’m no good with css, but I can tell > immediately when a change has not altered how the screen looks when it > should have changed. The fact that it can’t only makes it go a LOT slower. > It would have taken a lot longer for AI to just cycle through a bunch of > guesses to fix this if I wasn’t able to guide it to some alternative > solutions. I feel bad for people with no tech background relating to UX/UI > stuff who have to rely on AI to do these things. > > The future of UI design assistance with AI is going to have to be done > with a WYSIWYG drag-n-drop interface. Maybe that means having AI build it > initially and then using a normal web page editor to make changes to the > UI. > > Has anybody here had similar experiences and found a good solution for UI > editing with AI’s help? > > (I have always hated the “look-and-feel” side of software. This is exactly > why.) > > -David Schwartz > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >
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