On Wed, 2025-01-29 at 12:03 -0700, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > ...... > > Could it be that openSUSE cannot garner enough passion to keep > going? I wonder who it's community is. > > Could it be time for openSUSE to die off? > > We experienced CentOS pass away. > > I've been following Linux since about 1998. It seems somethings > would > come and some would go within that time period.
Well, I'll stick my foot in my mouth and join the OpenSuSE (and a bit of CentOS) 'discussion'. First, why I have an opinion: I sometimes teach a course on Linux at a local community college in the Phoenix Metro area. My course uses - well, used - CentOS 7, OpenSuSE (I forget which version), and Ubuntu as the distributions the students are required to install (in usually using VirtualBox). I'm using CentOS to give the students experience in what is extremely close to RedHat, Ubuntu to give them experience in one of the larger families of distribution derivative trees that I know of (which doesn't mean much!), and OpenSuSE because that's what the course designer chose (and I believe it was to give the students a wider range of distributions than just RedHat and Debian-flavored distros). CentOS 7 went totally unusable last year when RedHat, in their infinite wisdom, turned off their RPM servers, so I switched to CentOS Stream 9 (I think its 9). Fortunately not much changed from the course's point of view. Now, OpenSuSE. Where do I start? 2 years ago, students started having extreme issues with their installs. The install would seem to go fine, then when they rebooted it would barf. Usually it was because the entire /home directory was uninitialized. I started fooling with it, and it turns out it wasn't student error - I installed OpenSuSE like 10 times, and 8 out of those 10 times it failed to reboot in one way or another. (All under VirtualBox, I never tried on 'real' hardware nor with that commercial virtual machine system.. um, yeah, VMWare). We were using a little bit of an older version of OpenSuSE, so I tried the latest. Same thing! We dumped it and went to something else, I forget which. (Anyone have recommendations on what would make up a good, well-rounded balance of distros for the students? Please email me off-list about this. If we get enough people interested in an entire discussion 'group' on that, maybe we'll bring it back here, or I'll try to summarize if there's interest.) As a bit of an aside, the OpenSuSE software installation process is ... unique. Or at least extremely different than both CentOS and Debian. And also something I've seen (apparently randomly) fail, even when doing the same thing for both the successful installs and the failing ones. Legal notice - the above is ALL my personal opinion and does not in any way reflect the opinions of my employer, the school I'm an adjunct at, the district, nor my dog. Your mileage may vary, please deposit weapons at the door, thanks for playing. (Huh. techli...@phpcoderusa.com? should I have removed them from the cc list? Sorry if I should have!) --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
