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Most of those computers at the recycle computer stores ar from businesses. They
are about 3 or 4 years old and most of them has a max memory is about 16 Mbps.
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 19:13, Michael via PLUG-discuss
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> well, I'm going to get another recycled computer. A thinkcentre. From what
> I've heard they are, at the most, 3 years old and not up to spec for windows
> 11 (why they are in recycle). Got to love windows for that alone! Or does
> someone have a better idea? Any one know of the top of there head how much
> RAM maxes it out?
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:59 PM wheelie207 via PLUG-discuss
> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
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>> I have a system with over 32 gigs of DDR5 ram and the swap isn’t even used.
>> I also have a thread ripper cpu and it runs at 5.8 gigahertz in speed on a
>> am5 slot. But these new boards run the data through the cpu when reading and
>> writing data to the ssd5.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 09:02, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss
>> <[plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org](mailto:On+Sun,+Feb+25,+2024+at+09:02,+Bob+Elzer+via+PLUG-discuss+%3C%3Ca+href=)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> SSD ram cache does not prevent wear and tear on your SSD, it is used stop
>>> the bottleneck slowdown when writing lots of data to the SSD. The best way
>>> to prevent wear and tear is system ram, if you have enough ram the system
>>> may not even have to swap anything out, The three things that I always move
>>> off of an SSD are swap, log files, and tmp.
>>> If you have a ddr4 motherboard with four slots. You can have 128 GB of RAM.
>>> Right now you can get 64 GB of ddr4 RAM for around $135.
>>>
>>> What determines how much RAM you need is the programs you are running and
>>> how much RAM they need. Video and image editing require a lot more RAM then
>>> email and Web browsing.
>>>
>>> If you are going to use an SSD for your system drive. I would also
>>> recommend that the minimum size be 2 TB. As long as you don't fill it up,
>>> it has lots of room to use unused sectors to lessen the wear and tear.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024, 8:24 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On my current system I am running without swap, but I do have 32gb ram.
>>>>
>>>> If you pick an ssd with a ram cache on it you don't have to worry about
>>>> swap as much there. And you can extend ssd life with underprovisioning if
>>>> it still is a concern. But in reality a good quality ssd Wil last for
>>>> years even with swap in place as long as you don't run near max storage.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024, 6:49 AM James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss
>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To avoid swap wearing out your ssd, if you don't have an hd handy, you
>>>>> can set vm.swappiness to 0. This is not great since paging is quite
>>>>> efficient these days, but sometimes you'll want swap for suspend
>>>>> operations and don't want to actually page unless you're under memory
>>>>> pressure.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 3:09 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss
>>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Check out the latest batch of Intel-based N100 Mini PCs. They’re smaller
>>>>>> than MacMinis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’d say a minimal configuration would be 32GB of RAM and 1TB (or 2TB) of
>>>>>> SSD. I’d say an N100 is minimal CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some with AMD CPUs are cheaper as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here’s a search on Amazon:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://amzn.to/3woboP0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They don’t sort very well; here’s the cheapest Linux box I found. There
>>>>>> are cheaper ones with Windows that you can delete.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://amzn.to/48wM5rv
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve got a 2014 MacMini, a 2014 MBP, and a 2018 MacMini and they’re
>>>>>> still going strong. You can find late-model used Intel MacMinis for a
>>>>>> few hundred bucks that work great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Way back in the day, the all-in-one boxes used to have problems with a
>>>>>> serial port or the video going out and the whole thing would be dead.
>>>>>> But that doesn’t seem to happen much any more. I use my MacMinis daily
>>>>>> and the newer one runs the fan a lot when I’m watching videos, but other
>>>>>> than that, they’re still humming right along. I had one of the first gen
>>>>>> iMacs and the video card in it died shortly after the AppleCare expired.
>>>>>> I ended up selling it for $375 anyway. Today you can buy USB-3 and USB-C
>>>>>> expansion ports with one or more HDMI interfaces on them if the on-board
>>>>>> video dies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unless you need a super-high-power over-clocked water-cooled screaming
>>>>>> machine for gaming or bitcoin mining, I cannot see the value in building
>>>>>> a machine from scratch unless you’re trying to do it on the cheap using
>>>>>> recycled components. What’s the point?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David Schwartz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss
>>>>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want a guy I know to put a computer together for me. I'm thinking a
>>>>>>> single core (I don't think I need more processing power than that) with
>>>>>>> 8 gig of ram. I'm wanting to spend $3-$400. I'm an older guy now and
>>>>>>> won't use it for much more than web and email. What should I tell him
>>>>>>> to put in it?
>>>>>>>
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