yeah 17% faster didn't sound like much to me either. On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 12:16 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > > Mike, the motherboard will only have 4 slots for memory. If you use 8gb > sticks that means a max of 32 GB. Memory sticks come in 4, 8, 16 and 32gb > sticks. The max memory on the motherboard is 128gb. If you decide you need > more memory than 32gb then you would have to remove some of the 8gb sticks to > replace them with 16 or 32gb sticks the wasting the money you spent on the > 8gb sticks you replaced. > > So in my opinion, I would get a 16gb stick instead two ígb sticks. Thus > leaving room to go to 64gb in the future. Ram is always faster than nvme, SSD > and hdd. I don't think you will notice a 17% difference with single channel > mode which is ram speed. > > Even if you never get more than 16gb the speed difference is not that > noticeable. > > > On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 10:29 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss > <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >> I don't get it, Bob. >> >> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:24 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss >> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> > >> > My only suggestion on this machine is to use a 16gb stick, just so if you >> > ever decide you need more memory you won't have to replace the smaller >> > sticks. With 16gb sticks you can have 64gb total. If you ever think you >> > might like to have 128gb of memory the you could get a 32gb memory stick. >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss >> > <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> Just an idea and ballpark cost. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss >> >> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately. >> >>> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I >> >>> only have USB2. But you know what they say.... play with what you >> >>> have! >> >>> *-usb:0 >> >>> *-usbhost >> >>> bus info: usb@1 >> >>> logical name: usb1 >> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00 >> >>> *-usb >> >>> bus info: usb@1:1 >> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00 >> >>> *-usb:1 >> >>> *-usbhost >> >>> bus info: usb@2 >> >>> logical name: usb2 >> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00 >> >>> *-usb >> >>> bus info: usb@2:1 >> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00 >> >>> *-usb:0 >> >>> bus info: usb@2:1.4 >> >>> capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00 >> >>> configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s >> >>> *-usb:1 >> >>> bus info: usb@2:1.7 >> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00 >> >>> *-usb:0 >> >>> bus info: usb@2:1.7.2 >> >>> capabilities: usb-1.10 >> >>> configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA >> >>> speed=2Mbit/s >> >>> *-usb:1 >> >>> bus info: usb@2:1.7.3 >> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00 >> >>> configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA >> >>> speed=2Mbit/s >> >>> *-usb:2 >> >>> bus info: usb@2:1.7.4 >> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host >> >>> configuration: driver=usb-storage >> >>> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss >> >>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough >> >>> > power supply to support that many hard drives. If you could get that >> >>> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail >> >>> > rather quickly on a NUC. You would need to get some sort of external >> >>> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make it >> >>> > work right. I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the >> >>> > enclosure >> >>> > also is USB3. USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow. >> >>> > >> >>> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly to a >> >>> > mini PCIe port. Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it isn't >> >>> > bottle >> >>> > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes per second. >> >>> > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen >> >>> > instantly. Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3 seconds. Login >> >>> > times are virtually instant. When you first get one, you will tell >> >>> > your >> >>> > computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was logout until you >> >>> > realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to the login screen >> >>> > in >> >>> > less time than your old computer could just logout. >> >>> > >> >>> > Brian Cluff >> >>> > >> >>> > On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >>> > > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only 5yo with 2 years of >> >>> > > use. >> >>> > > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what I';m thinking about >> >>> > > doing >> >>> > > with the NUC? >> >>> > > >> >>> > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss >> >>> > > <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >>> > >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in the list. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> I would also make sure that you get a motherboard that has a place >> >>> > >> for >> >>> > >> at least 1 NVMe. Then I would recommend that you get at least one >> >>> > >> NVMe. It doesn't have to be huge, but if you can put at least your >> >>> > >> OS >> >>> > >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine feel 50 times faster >> >>> > >> than >> >>> > >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard drive.... Trust me, it will be >> >>> > >> worth every cent to get it. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> I would also recommend getting an AMD machine right now. You can >> >>> > >> get a >> >>> > >> whole lot more for your money right now with AMD. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> BTW What's the price range you are looking at spending? >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> Brian Cluff >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >>> > >>> I think I figured out what I want to do..... I'm going to buy a >> >>> > >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power supply and then frankenstein >> >>> > >>> the >> >>> > >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the video card from the old >> >>> > >>> machine >> >>> > >>> (got to do this as cheaply as I can). What else could I >> >>> > >>> frankenstein? >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:25 PM Michael <bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> > >>>> Wellp, I am going to do something I never have done before..... >> >>> > >>>> I'm >> >>> > >>>> going to get a new computer. Well I think I'll have one put >> >>> > >>>> together.... I'll put it together. Where would go to get a >> >>> > >>>> chassis and >> >>> > >>>> motherboard then I'll put all of the other guts in. Is such an >> >>> > >>>> animal >> >>> > >>>> in existence?I thought of another NUC but they aren't like what >> >>> > >>>> they >> >>> > >>>> were. 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