:-)

I can barely believe I'm reading some of that stuff on a Linux users' group, where computer literacy (and beyond) is exceptionally high.

I remember a decade ago when "news" anchors were caviling about, "Who's running this internet?!? Who's in charge of this?!?"

OMG, the sky was falling, ya know.

This reminds me of that.  <shudder>

- Vara


On 3/20/2017 2:47 PM, Anon Anon wrote:
Vara has cool opinions. I like Vara. Keep keepin it real.

On Mar 20, 2017 14:43, "Vara La Fey" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Nuh uh. Open hotspots is one of the great things about the
    internet, and from time to time everyone needs one - sometimes in
    the middle of the night or during holidays when lobbies with keys
    posted aren't available. Open hotspots are also a good way to
    maintain anonymity for dissidents, whistle-blowers, LGBT who are
    not "out", etc. When I have my own routers, I often run them open
    for all these reasons, and I always will.

    I sometimes educate family and friends about PGP, and one of these
    days I will run a Tor node as well, with all the
    censor-circumvention tools available. The more that censors and
    anti-anonymity Orwellianists don't like it, the more everybody
    should do it.

    I don't give .001% of a damn whether actual criminals use hotspots
    or anything else, in exactly the same ways I don't give .001% of a
    damn if they use guns, cars, roads, kitchen knives - or anything else.

    Instead of desiring safety over the animating quest for freedom,
    why don't you suggest educating people to use https? As it is, the
    Electronic Frontier Foundation (www.eff.org <http://www.eff.org>)
    recently reported that https use is up to 40%, IIRC.

    - Vara


    On 3/20/2017 12:29 PM, Victor Odhner wrote:
    I’m really annoyed that so many companies offer open WIFI when it
    would be so easy to secure those hot spots.

    Restaurants, hotels, and the waiting rooms of auto dealerships
    are almost 100% open.

    I am not one to say “there ought to be a law” because we have too
    many doggone laws, and I’m not that into a lot of demonstrating
    and yelling. But I would love to help educate companies on why
    they should secure their routers.

    If I were a progressive type, I’d suggest putting stickers on
    those venues saying:

        We don’t have passwords on our WIFI
        because OUR WIFI (and YOUR passwords)
        should be available to everybody
        with no effort!

    But being more right-wing, I’d much rather recognize that they’d
    be happy to do the right thing if we could explain it to the
    right people.

    I’ve repeatedly thanked the mechanic shop I use (C&R Tire on
    Tatum) because they have a key posted and I can feel sort of safe
    going online while I wait for an oil change. But all the places
    that have open routers are corporate owned so it does no good to
    gripe to the folks behind the desk.

    Any ideas on this?

    Thanks,
    Victor





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