I need to say that I was absolutely wrong, and I misread the conversation entirely. Alex certainly didn't "bypass" anybody, and what I said was blatantly incorrect. I apologise for the misinformation/confusion, I should have checked things first before even suggesting what I did.
I don't want to sweep my stupidity under the rug, but I'd like to steer the conversation back to logo design; are there any thoughts on posting a community-oriented competition? I think it would be best if we collected a wealth of candidates and concepts while opening the door to new potential artists. Even if it doesn't yield a final logo, it could be a boon of ideas which could drive a final design; we could even expressly encourage raw sketches. On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Thomas Pfeiffer <thomas.pfeif...@kde.org> wrote: > On 05.06.2016 13:22, Alessandro Longo wrote: > > Il 02-06-2016 20:47 Ken Vermette ha scritto: >> >> On a side note, like Thomas, I'm a little leery of the fact that >>> you've seemingly bypassed the VDG main channel. I've done stupid >>> things like that too (much more publicly) and I've learned that >>> consulting with peers is important before moving up the chain with an >>> idea. >>> >> >> I didn't bypassed the VDG channel, I sent the email to visual-design >> mailing list, I wanted to discuss there but also make plasma-devel >> subscribers aware of it... (looking into MLs it looks to me a good >> practice, sorry). Nobody replied into visual-design ml... Then Thomas >> informed me that my email wasn't sent into plasma-dev (but it was on >> visual-design since some days, I'm pretty sure about that). So OK if you >> didn't see that, no problem. But please don't say I bypassed VDG. Recently >> the VDG "officially" said that KDE logo has to be replaced by Plasma one >> (in a bug report iirc) and someone replied that the VDG should discuss this >> with Plasma team, since the topic is really important. So I think I did the >> best thing to use both the mailing lists. >> >> You are right in that you did not "bypass" the VDG (which is why I did > not use that word), because that would imply intent. I know that you did > not mean to bypass anybody. What I do not like is that you at least > intended to send the mail to the VDG and Plasma lists at the same time (and > yes, I could have said that earlier). I know that even that was not with > any malicious intent, either. > The problem is just that this created confusion because I know that at > least some people thought that what you presented to the Plasma list had > already been discussed and agreed upon with the VDG. You never said that, > but that's apparently how some people interpreted your email. > > So, you did not exactly do anything wrong, but in the future I'd be happy > if you discussed ideas with the rest of the VDG and only posted on dev > lists after we agreed on something (so that this agreed upon VDG suggestion > could then receive dev feedback), just to avoid confusion. > > About the fact the Sun logo looks like a gear if used as icon for kickoff: >> you are totally right, that's why I'd suggest to use a generic icon for >> kickoff, not because of the Sun logo, but because I don't like the >> tradition to use a logo into the product itself (it also makes questions: >> it should be used the DE logo (Plasma one), the community one (KDE logo) or >> the distribution one? That's why I suggest to avoid this decision and >> simply use a generic "apps" icon). If generic "apps" icons will not be >> used, I totally agree with you that the Sun logo shouldn't be used in >> monochrome as kickoff icon. >> > > You posted a screenshot from your system on Google+ [1] where you use your > proposed logo (although not in monochrome) as a launcher icon. This might > have added to the confusion. > > [1] > https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/100036546744213767408/6287945369516307842 > > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel >
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