On Donnerstag, 18. Februar 2016 11:28:27 CET Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 18 February 2016 02:03:08 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > The thing is: When you open the popup, your attention is focused on it, > > anyway, regardless of its size. It would feel clunky if we opened it with > > a > > long animation like we still do far too often in Plasma, but if it opened > > and closed quickly enough, I'm convinced that the benefit of not having to > > scroll so much would outweigh the "cost" of it covering more of the screen > > which you don't have your attention on anyway. > > I don't think the cost is much the increased screen usage. > I think the major cost is having the overwhelm of all the information at > once fitted in that sidebar. > > We can have 2 scenarios: > a) all the information at once (ie all plasmoids open in the side panel: it > would be cluttered beyond imaginable (and no, you can't control too much > what's inside the single modules so if one goes this way it *will* be an > information orgy, no mattter how hard you try to impose design on the > single modules) > > b) all possible thing still by itself, tabbed interface or whatever, so > notifications alone, networkmanager alone etc. in most cases the sidebar > will be a desolation of emptyness (with possible increased mouse travel > distance even)
I would really encourage you (and everyone else who is skeptical about our suggestion) to give deepin or Budgie a quick try (they each have their own distros, but are available on other distros like Arch as well, and Manjaro has community spins for both). (Don't worry, I wouldn't dare asking you to try out Windows 10, though ;) ) They both have a quite powerful sidebar (they both actually do their whole system configuration in there, which I find a bit extreme, but it seems to be working out pretty well for them). Just for a quick glance, feel free to look at this screenshot from the Budgie sidebar: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/solus-linux-os-gets-new-daily-iso-budgie-next-improvements-updated-installer-496874-2.jpg The first columns shows applets, the second shows notifications. Both of those look neither "cluttered beyond imaginable" nor like "a desolation of emptyness" to me. I can fully understand the fear that it may look too full or too empty, but to me, Budge and deepin are living proof that a sidebar can be designed in a way that it doesn't. Also, our task/Activity switcher sidebar doesn't look desolate to me if there are only two tasks/Activities to switch between, either. > Note that since I'm rewriting the systray from scratch, I'm quite affected > by wether the decision is, I need to take the "proper" architecture, I > don't want to rewrite it a 3rd time that's for sure! Yes, you're absolutely right. If there is a time to decide this, it's definitely now! _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
