2011/2/12 Aaron J. Seigo <[email protected]> > On Friday, February 11, 2011, Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: > > Well... I see now how it's complex. But what if I removed all this > complex > > interaction from my ideas for a (big) while and just wanted to create a > > more dynamic plasma shell? > > i'd say: don't look for permission,
I didn't. I just wanted to check until what point what I want to do is actually doable and if I was in the right direction. > just start hacking and see what you come > up with. > Is this[http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/ShellDesign] enough to start? > > there's been some good and useful feedback here so far, and you can > incorporate that input, even if it means adjusting your design and/or > goals. > > but then maybe just get started. you need to write code to have code, > right? > :) > > I mean, I can't have all geometries of all > > windows updated at the same time, but I at least can know whether there's > > any window opened, can't I -- IIRC kdeworkspace provides a list of opened > > windows? > > there's KWindowInfo and KWindowSystem in libkdeui, but libktasmanager in > kde- > workspace/libs/taskmanager provides a lot of conveniences. though for just > tracking window geometry and stacking order changes, KWindowInfo/System > might > be the most straightforward route. > > > If so, we'd have a plasma dashboard when no window is opened and > > a bar with all plasmoids iconfied when there are windows, for example. Is > > that feasible? > > should be possible with some work and creativity, yes :) > > -- > Aaron J. Seigo > humru othro a kohnu se > GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 > > KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks > > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > 2011/2/12 Marco Martin <[email protected]> > On Saturday 12 February 2011, Luiz Romário Santana Rios wrote: > > > > About "Sorry for being the bad guy", there's no problem at all. > > > Actually, I want you to show me what's possible and what's not. My > > > intention here is not to make a shell that resembles exactly my > > > mockups, but rather showing an ideal mockup and see what I can do out > > > of it. > > > > > > Oh, and thank you guys for the answers. I'm doing some more mockups > > > right now, btw. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Plasma-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > > Well... I see now how it's complex. But what if I removed all this > complex > interaction from my ideas for a (big) while and just wanted to create a > more complex -> more fun, right? :p Of course :) But I would put these interactions out of table until I figure out some way to get them to work -- or near it. > > > more dynamic plasma shell? I mean, I can't have all geometries of all > windows updated at the same time, but I at least can know whether there's > any window opened, can't I -- IIRC kdeworkspace provides a list of opened > as Aaron said, KWindowSystem should get you *some* of what you need: not everything will be feasible but to a certain extent something interesting could come out of it. > Cheers, Marco Martin _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel Thank you guys very much. I'll see what can I come up with and I'll report. -- Luiz Romário Santana Rios
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