On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 01:08:06 +0100 Michael Biebl <bi...@debian.org> wrote:
> Am 14.11.2017 um 23:46 schrieb Karl O. Pinc: > > The stretch README.Debian.gz for udev omits mention that > > update-initramfs -u must be run after changing configuration files > > when converting to the new "predictable network interface names". > > > > Well, we already mention it earlier: > > > - Disable the default *.link rules with > "ln -s /dev/null /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link" > and rebuild the initrd with "update-initramfs -u". Sure. But the README is organized into sections. You don't mention the initramfs in the section that's telling you how to convert your pre Debian 9 systems into something suitable for Debian 10. I should be able to follow the instructions given in the migration section and, well, migrate. I should not have to carefully read the whole document. But if I follow the document as written my interface name never changes (until I somehow figure out that I need to update the initramfs to make this happen.) So, the "migration" section needs mention of update-initramfs. > Besides, your patch seems to contain a lot of other changes. > Please elaborate A few goals of the patch: Improve random sentences. (Without re-writing the entire document.) Generally this falls along the lines of changing "will", as in "always must", to "may", as in "are allowed to". This isn't perfect. There could remain potentially unanswered questions in the reader's mind as to what happens automatically and what must be done manually. If you think this is a problem I think it should be addressed with specificity in a sentence like: "Software upgrades do not automatically change network interface names." Likewise, add caveats to overly definitive statements where awkward surprises can result if the statements are taken at face value. E.g. "replacing a broken network card does not change the name". Well, if you replace a broken network card and put the new card in a different PCI slot the names of the system's interfaces likely change. Caveats lengthen the README, but it's harder to (re)craft a good, accurate, short sentence than to add an additional qualifying sentence, so that's what I did. Finally, the main goal was to make the section on "migration" closer to a procedure which could be followed step-by-step. The old document told you to go through your config files and find all places where the old interface names occurred _before_ it told you how to find the new interface names which which to replace the old. Once I started down the road toward a step-by-step procedure it became clear that blindly following some of the steps could lead to a dangerous place. Like having a remotely accessible system which is no longer remotely accessible -- what you get when you delete the 70-persistent-net.rules files and reboot without thinking through the consequences. This led to a lot of problem mitigation verbiage. I didn't do an awesome job. Writing good sentences is hard. And in my opinion there's a lot to be done by a good editor almost everywhere in the document. I think that, overall, the patch is an improvement. A step forward. If you don't think so that's ok. Or take the hunks you like. Or apply it and then edit over what you don't care for. I patched because I think that it's entirely unacceptable to have a document that looks like a step by step procedure and leave out the critical step of generating a new initramfs. Once I started it was hard to stop banging out the dents and applying some polish to the rough spots. See also: Bug#881771 Regards, Karl <k...@meme.com> Free Software: "You don't pay back, you pay forward." -- Robert A. Heinlein _______________________________________________ Pkg-systemd-maintainers mailing list Pkg-systemd-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-systemd-maintainers