Hi Salvatore, Security Team,

On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 11:58:44AM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 09:56:57AM +0000, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Jan 2025 01:38:21 +0100 Chris Hofstaedtler <z...@debian.org>
> > wrote:
> > > Control: tags -1 - moreinfo
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 07:18:39PM +0000, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:17:28 +0100 Chris Hofstaedtler
> > <z...@debian.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Source: systemd
> > > > > Version: 257.2-2
> > > > >
> > > > > please apply this commit to the systemd that trixie will get:
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/a4d18914751e687c9e44f22fe4e5f95b843a45c8
> > > > > 
> > > > > It already changes the default to the value that we want (0600).
> > > > 
> > > > This is quite an invasive patch, that would make stable release
> > > > maintenance more painful and time consuming. Can it not wait for
> > Forky?
> > > > Are there any pressing issues that would be solved with this
> > backport?
> > > 
> > > The old defaults are a partial security problem (depending on who
> > > you ask). Previously users could call "mesg n" to be safe, and some
> > > root bashrcs seem to do that (maybe even by default in some
> > > releases).

[restoring some snipped context]
> > > Given Debian had secure defaults before systemd was introduced, no,
> > > waiting because the systemd patch to do the right thing is too
> > > invasive, is IMO not an option.
> > > 
> > > TBH most of the meson diff doesn't need to exist in Debian, and then
> > > the actually changed lines are like 5 in total.
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> > Can you please clarify the security problem it solves on the upstream
> > PR? If that's the case then it's a candidate for upstream stable
> > backports too, and then it can be picked from there
> 
> Here:
> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/35599#issuecomment-2633559542

Adding you to this bug for awareness.

Chris

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