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Package: pulseaudio
Version: 0.9.21-3
Severity: normal
Pulseaudio in Debian now depends on udev for device discovery.
But this is just configuration, because by default it is configured
to use module-udev-detect. However, it works just fine using other
detection modules or with static config - like, for example, module-detect
or just module-alsa-sink - udev support is definitely not needed for
these.
Please move udev dependency to Recommends at least, and change versioned
Depends to versioned Conflicts. This is a no-op for default squeeze which
installs Recommended packages by default, but it lets users to remove udev
which is not mandated by far more "involved" packages like mdadm.
Thanks!
-- System Information:
Versions of packages pulseaudio depends on:
ii adduser 3.112 add and remove users and groups
ii consolekit 0.4.1-4 framework for defining and trackin
ii libasound2 1.0.23-2 shared library for ALSA applicatio
ii libc6 2.11.2-6+squeeze1 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii libcap2 1:2.19-3 support for getting/setting POSIX.
ii libdbus-1-3 1.2.24-3 simple interprocess messaging syst
ii libgdbm3 1.8.3-9 GNU dbm database routines (runtime
ii libice6 2:1.0.6-1 X11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii libltdl7 2.2.6b-2 A system independent dlopen wrappe
ii libpulse0 0.9.21-3 PulseAudio client libraries
ii libsamplerate0 0.1.7-3 Audio sample rate conversion libra
ii libsm6 2:1.1.1-1 X11 Session Management library
ii libsndfile1 1.0.21-3 Library for reading/writing audio
ii libspeexdsp1 1.2~rc1-1 The Speex extended runtime library
ii libudev0 163-2 libudev shared library
ii libx11-6 2:1.3.3-3 X11 client-side library
ii libxtst6 2:1.1.0-3 X11 Testing -- Record extension li
ii lsb-base 3.2-23.1 Linux Standard Base 3.2 init scrip
ii udev 163-2 /dev/ and hotplug management daemo
Versions of packages pulseaudio recommends:
ii pulseaudio-esound-compat 0.9.21-3 PulseAudio ESD compatibility layer
ii pulseaudio-module-x11 0.9.21-3 X11 module for PulseAudio sound se
Versions of packages pulseaudio suggests:
ii paprefs 0.9.9-2 PulseAudio Preferences
ii pulseaudio-utils 0.9.21-3 Command line tools for the PulseAu
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Hi,
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 14:04 +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> Pulseaudio in Debian now depends on udev for device discovery.
> But this is just configuration, because by default it is configured
> to use module-udev-detect. However, it works just fine using other
> detection modules or with static config - like, for example, module-detect
> or just module-alsa-sink - udev support is definitely not needed for
> these.
If you want dynamic device detection, module-udev-detect is what you
want now that all alternatives have been officially deprecated[0][1].
Besides, even alsa-base nowadays depends on udev[2], so there is really
no sane way to run a desktop machine (and that's what PulseAudio is for)
without udev. Finally udev is Priority: important[3] which means one can
expect it to be present on any machine[4].
Best regards
Alexander Kurtz
[0] http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/Modules#module-detect
[1] http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/Modules#module-hal-detect
[2] http://packages.debian.org/sid/alsa-base
[3] http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/udev/udev_175-3.1.dsc
[4] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-priorities
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