-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 06/19/2015 01:37 PM, James Cowgill wrote: > From the bug: >> RC severity mostly so this shows up on the radars of all the >> right people crossing off the details we need to finalise for the >> release. > > That doesn't apply here.
stretch will be released at some point in the future and we will exactly run into the same problem. We already did for Jessie where cmus is now broken by default. > Hmm I personally can't get cmus to break this way but it could be > RC if it breaks in default installations. Did you remove your .cmus configuration directory? If you have an existing .cmus directory, it often works. However, this bug was discovered by someone at my physics department after upgrading to Jessie. Initially, .cmus immediately segfaulted with her old configuration directory. I asked her to rename it, so cmus would use a new directory and she ended up with the application being stuck at the start because of libdnet. It is clearly reproducible. Just did a test install on an unstable system where cmus was never installed and I get: glaubitz@ikarus:~$ cmus getnodeadd: Can not open /etc/decnet.conf Interestingly, on this machine there is a timeout and cmus starts eventually. However, I have seen machines (which had a static IP network configuration) where it hung forever. >> Which is my whole point. > > Then this is a bug in roaraudio / dnprogs, not cmus. No one denies that. However, the problem is that the ROAR people refuse to drop DECnet support and hence Ron asked in [1] to drop ROAR audio support. >> The ROAR developers and maintainers refuse to do that which is >> why we should drop it from cmus. They, for some reason, think >> it's important to support a pre-historic networking protocol. > > I found this bug: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=675014 Which was closed with the message "Go away, I don't care." > This is the newer one: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755934 Which is, again, ignored. > But I couldn't find any evidence the _current_ maintainer of > roaraudio has refused to remove DECnet support. The current bug > about it has no replies. Quoting what Ron said who requested the removal in [1]: ======================================================================== But basically roar was a disaster on lots of fronts as we were trying to wrap up the wheezy freeze. It was getting dragged in as a hard dependency by packages it was pretty hard to avoid having installed if you had any sort of media support application installed - and the DECNet farce meant that was breaking people's network configuration. It in turn was also depending on the obsolete celt package which we trying to get removed from wheezy - and every attempt to get its maintainers to try to fix these things was met with "what problem? I see no problem here. DECNet is essential functionality, we can't drop it ..." Which basically meant the only choice remaining was to get roar itself removed from wheezy (which meant dropping the deps on it for anything that didn't also want to get removed with it). AFAICT, about the only two actual users of roar in the world are Philipp, its primary author, and his mate Stephan (who filed all the "bring it back" bugs for him). If cmus is Recommending it again, then yeah, dropping that back to a suggests at the very least seems like a prudent move if it's still breaking people's systems ... Though if it's still going to break the systems of people who install it as a Suggests - and its upstream is still refusing to fix that after all these years of it being a known problem, I have to wonder a bit about even the value of that ... but that's really a question for the cmus users and maintainer to decide where the value lies. ======================================================================== Adrian > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=675610 - -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVhTcxAAoJEHQmOzf1tfkTOq4P/R+TWffDmc9w4+LVPrVtNwFR Tg/GSmOGQk6WyXWVqZWD8EZLIOdSovnPcNd9l/Nig6DEI+3/XQmPq0CehX12qIiJ y8hNHwNvwyEKP3qQzYJ6fDtHUFuo+xF2CthHTta54bjF9/LiJktZwh5xSqAJrjk+ tC0g8iXjgffubxpHzMiVuWZAAXHhofzJ6KxUr8ppRHRJcuZCnK8hgjPCf8mqOZli rNj0MMTIu4YQI+cPyAKA6CZP3sgYqqBUKrDSqCKMkMwJypX+7ndFS6LFyJK5VlNM e8yk2bH9yZgy5wy5Rb/cT/me0W64lH2aKpT3tYGjyMtIG2y0Dsgej7+NUEOX64eN L+q4E4o/yR1ruirEeMQWe3YzigbI8xCJHFBslpSoVFG3+s7rgLJPTwo+oWKW0m/Z qAyy/TIyCLDa2V/Fnzf1TWo/5qFA0Y+XtKEApiwEFodMM+XgSWli/fKPbq36XJ6W Nbv9WMWj9w0L2i1lqsbcTFkhtX5TjhuTMNYPf3R0e1guniaz+clUsvwICJv9sJAP sbgFpHZwy6LLAt6mM6fBLO+WFdxucndQftnB5SyPp1ZWJ+yLQdai8uRq7IL0fl8F 0e4VcZrVbCKDgQ5Q4ER/lMpNY7gn3gq/vUpv9rg2ZPw3rbFNPv1llQ6WsuJZft+J cn2tauus+TRYWWIOY5Hq =EfUG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
