Quoting Felipe Sateler (2014-08-27 17:19:27) > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Andreas Tille <andr...@an3as.eu> wrote: >> yesterday I joined the videostream of the installer BoF at >> DebConf[1]. I also became a bit involved via IRC. Joey Hess raised >> the question about the criteria to add a Blend or not. I answered >> "all in the list of the bug report #758116" which IMHO fits the >> criterion of "actively maintained and some valuable content for >> users". >> >> I think it should be also a criterion that the team behind the Blend >> confirms that they are interested and so I'm hereby pinging all lists >> in question to ask you for confirmation. > > Do we want to pursue this? I think that if we could manage to provide > useful blend packages it would be worth it, but so far I have failed > to do so. I think maybe we need to rethink the approach and reduce the > number of metapackages. Today we have too many. Maybe we should reduce > them to 2: multimedia-codecs and multimedia-production.
When this blend emerged I was surprised it only grouped by functionality - I imagine few users need "8 ways to loop audio" or "7 drum machines", and more need either "a rich drum-machine and rudimentary other tools missing from that specific tool relevant for drum-oriented production" or "a rich loop engine and rudimentary add-on tools missing from that specific tool relevant for loop-oriented multimedia production". Each such "scenario"-oriented would have the potential to grow from simple metapackage to also include choice of window manager and custom tuning of that to optimize for the scenario, and suitable Gtk+ and Qt skin, and some graphics that goes well with it. I.e. "spice" not technically multimedia but part of a multimedia user experience. The games team has created metapackages grouped by gaming style, but also done a few subjective selections. That I find inspiring. Perhaps leave all the current multimedia metapackages as-is, but add additional subjective ones each composing an _environment_ for consuming/producing multimedia. Also consuming multimedia is IMO relevant to group like that: When using KDE (and therefore libphonon) what is recommended players and codec packages and whatever to use together? How about a lightweight (i.e. non-GNOME and non-KDE) desktop - what do we recommend to use there? For the DebianParl blend (which uses Xfce desktop) I have experimented with avoiding GStreamer framework altogether. That is possible - and is quite lightweight. Specifically your idea to create a multimedia-codecs: I think few user really wants "all codecs in the FLOSS World" - that's merely the desparate consequence of "all relevant FLOSS codecs installed and properly registered" too often missing. Let's fix the real problem, not encourage our users to bogusly reframe it. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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